Good cab to match with SVT Classic?

[snitchez]

Couldn't be further from the truth the tone variation from the two filters alone is immense without turning any other knob

So much so they released that part of the amp as a pedal
Markbass amps impart no colour to your Bass they make the sound of your Bass louder, if the sound of your Bass is crap to start with then the resultant loud sound will also be crap but louder.

pretty sure if my bass had a crap sound it would sound crap through all the amps i played through.... actually is there a place where markbass actually says that? imparting no colour to your bass?

I also have this I need to flick want 990 for it http://www.jansen.co.nz/product.php?b=&sku=BRX12

if u read what he wanted, it might help with ur sales pitches.

[nzsimon1]

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[TmcB]

So anyway, any 2x12's to recommend? I can't seem to find a straight answer as to whether they can pump out the same or near vol as a 4x10

[nzsimon1]

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[TmcB]

You did indeed Simon, and that's why I started thinking about it.

Look, if you want to sell markbass, stock up on the little Mark II and try and buy some Tech 21 VT bass pedals if you can, then point people to the billions of threads on talkbass that say how it's a cheap alternative to an SVT.

I don't disparage you working hard to get sales but at the end of the day in this thread I'm looking at getting recommendations that will suit the great amp I've got. I'm not going to jump on the first cheap thing offered. I've taken note of what you've added and as I said, I appreciate that you're making the effort to find something that will suit.

But relax, markbass tone isn't going to suit everyone, and it's a clean, hifi tone. What I'm getting is the total opposite; a warm, vintage tone. I think that you've got a gap in the bass gear you stock (if you care of course). You've got carvin which is seen as cheap and cheerful but then you have expensive boutique stuff. The guys that are going to buy markbass are also looking at Ampeg, Mesa Boogie, GK etc. In the middle you've got your genz Benz, Ashdown gear, and that's what I reckon will be the price range to get something in and get punters through the door. Or, I reckon you could go nuts with bass gear, get Aguilar, Epifani, Bergitino as well as markbass, and become the specialist bass vendor in NZ.

[jimi]

Couldn't be further from the truth the tone variation from the two filters alone is immense without turning any other knob

So much so they released that part of the amp as a pedal
Markbass amps impart no colour to your Bass they make the sound of your Bass louder, if the sound of your Bass is crap to start with then the resultant loud sound will also be crap but louder.

This is sorta the problem. Some people don't mind DIing their bass straight to the PA, some people want to have their bass sound coloured by a preamp / power amp / speakers.

If all you want is clean Hi-Fi bass then the mark bass is perfect, and as I said earlier, the amount they cut through the mix is bloody impressive for their size and weight. Personally I like a bit of colour to the sound, and I hate sound guys who try to DI my bass infront of the amp, cos I have an Ampeg and thats where the goodness comes from.

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TmcB ... I haven't used a 2x12 cab, but I did have a combo with a single 12 in it and was pretty happy with the sound I got out of it. Handled the lows and highs both pretty well. I wouldn't turn my nose up at 12's as a speaker. Cabs arent all created equal though, so no one is gonna be able to say a 2x12 is as loud as a 4x10 definitively.

I had a Trace Elliot 15 cab that was louder than some 4x10 cabs, yet not as loud as the equivilent Trace Elliot 4x10 cab (which someone mentioned on page 1 and is an awesome cab). I used to go on the theory of if its heavy its loud, but that was a few years ago and with some of the new speaker technologies I dont think it applies any more. I reckon a 2x12 in a big deep cab is probably gonna be louder than a 4x10 in a small cab, but I have nothing scientific to back that up. Really you need to go try the cab you want and not buy blind.

[snitchez]

i think it was timi who had something along the lines of a diagonal 212 to ampeg specs done by livesound. it wasnt too pricey from memory. may cost a bit to ship down to ya tho.

i trust his opinion. pm him to check how much it cost?

[nzsimon1]

What I'm getting is the total opposite; a warm, vintage tone..

That is what the VLE knob does it is a vintage loudspeaker emulater when it is all the way off the amp is flat dialling it in takes you back in time and adds a mellower sound which was the 70's rock sound

Lots of people put this knob and the VPF ( Variable Pass Filter ) in the 12 oclock position and think it is flat and then say they dont like the sound which is what you would expect
here is some details on the function of the two filters http://www.markbass.it/product_detail.php?id=117

Anyway you were looking at cabinets

[Terexgeek]

That is what the VLE knob does it is a vintage loudspeaker emulater when it is all the way off the amp is flat dialling it in takes you back in time

What a feature.

[Timi]

Already put up some info on bassplayer, but my Livesound 2x12 was $1100. I sold my SVT410HE for it. The 2x12 sounds "just as loud" but the midrange cuts a bit better. That said, I should probably sell all my gear for Markbass because the Americans voted it THE BEST.

They could make you pretty much whatever you want for a good price, but due to most of the speakers being 8 ohms you won't be able to do a 4x something and have it a 4 ohm cab. What you could do is have that dual impedance Marshall thing where the cab can be run at 8 or 2 ohms, just make sure that it's not set to 2 ohms if someone else is using the cab!

[bluesbass]

+1 for MarkBass... I'd be interested to know how many of you guys have actually played though a MB rig.
If I set everything flat and put the VLE on 9:00 or 10:00 to tone down the tweeter and you get pretty damn close to the Ampeg sound with my LMII, add a SVT pedal in there and it pretty much nails it, as far as I can tell.
The LMII (and I only have a LMII, so can't speak for the rest of the range) has a pretty sensitive EQ and with the filters its a pretty versitile amp, and anyone who says otherwise is just plain wrong.

Sorry OP this thread was about cabs...
My Markbass cab has some strong upper mids (I have the 4 x 10 front port version) and from what I have read the SVT 410hlf is a "muddy" sounding and midrange deficient cab.
Basically, as with all things... set your budget and use your ears... play what sounds good to you.

[NZRS-Dave]

Now, I swear (f*ck) that I posted here that I have Genz Benz NeoX 2x12 cabinet if you want to have a toodle through that with the head when it arrives.

But I can't see where I posted that.

I'm not selling it because I love it ... but we have them around the traps (don't think Hornby has one)

Sorry, I can't tell you whether it's muddy, flat, vintage, punchy, loud ... it's a 2x12 600w 4ohm cab with NeoD speakers. It's the only bass cab I have used for the last 5-8 years so my ears are pretty well biased toward it.

[TmcB]

Now, I swear (f*ck) that I posted here that I have Genz Benz NeoX 2x12 cabinet if you want to have a toodle through that with the head when it arrives.

But I can't see where I posted that.

I'm not selling it because I love it ... but we have them around the traps (don't think Hornby has one)

Sorry, I can't tell you whether it's muddy, flat, vintage, punchy, loud ... it's a 2x12 600w 4ohm cab with NeoD speakers. It's the only bass cab I have used for the last 5-8 years so my ears are pretty well biased toward it.

I would love that Dave, getting to hear neoD speakers as well as 2x12 tone is a double up of oarsum.
Plus you you get to have a go through the SVT!

Actually, you're surrounded by them everyday so that's probably not anything to shout about.

[NZRS-Dave]

Now, I swear (f*ck) that I posted here that I have Genz Benz NeoX 2x12 cabinet if you want to have a toodle through that with the head when it arrives.

But I can't see where I posted that.

I'm not selling it because I love it ... but we have them around the traps (don't think Hornby has one)

Sorry, I can't tell you whether it's muddy, flat, vintage, punchy, loud ... it's a 2x12 600w 4ohm cab with NeoD speakers. It's the only bass cab I have used for the last 5-8 years so my ears are pretty well biased toward it.

I would love that Dave, getting to hear neoD speakers as well as 2x12 tone is a double up of oarsum.
Plus you you get to have a go through the SVT!

Actually, you're surrounded by them everyday so that's probably not anything to shout about.

I actually don't want to risk hearing it... I use a Behringer BX4500T head (450w at 4ohms) so I don't want to hear anything better that I can't afford.

It's safer to work in the candy shop, when you don't know what the candy tastes like.

[Timi]

A few people have touched on the transparent vs character thing which I think is pretty important....

I've always believed that most of the "Ampeg sound" is the cab. You can use almost any head into an Ampeg cab and it will have "that sound", but an Ampeg into a transparent cab takes on a very different character. No worries if you like it, but don't expect the classic Ampeg tone.

Some Bergantino and Livesound cabs are pretty much Ampegs, but even Ashdown are kinda similar.