Oops... why? Because the word of God is boring?mr_sooty wrote:Modern churches are trying to actually keep people coming in and not let them die of boredom.
Comrade, do you doubt the final victory?
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Oops... why? Because the word of God is boring?mr_sooty wrote:Modern churches are trying to actually keep people coming in and not let them die of boredom.
Slowy wrote: That's the problem; everything rewarding is just such hard work. Regret takes much less effort.
Precisely. When we’re trying to attract people with good music rather than God woe of woeVince wrote:Oops... why? Because the word of God is boring?mr_sooty wrote:Modern churches are trying to actually keep people coming in and not let them die of boredom.
Comrade, do you doubt the final victory?
The music may or may not be helping but at least it is an attempt to stay relevant. There's a lot of stuff vying for peoples attention these days, we are in an information rich, instant gratification world and as God doesn't have a twitter account, how do you get new,young members to your church, without alienating the older regulars?bbrunskill wrote:Precisely. When we’re trying to attract people with good music rather than God woe of woeVince wrote:Oops... why? Because the word of God is boring?mr_sooty wrote:Modern churches are trying to actually keep people coming in and not let them die of boredom.
Comrade, do you doubt the final victory?
somewhere we’ve gone horribly wrong
Slowy wrote: That's the problem; everything rewarding is just such hard work. Regret takes much less effort.
You are about right JB. Some recent research done by one of the megachurches in aucks showed that about 7% of NZers attend a Christian church service regularly.jeremyb wrote:What's interesting about those figures is that I doubt more than 5% of those who have identified as one of the Christian religions would go to church... But Muslims etc go in droves!
Well they need somewhere to hide from the Americans.BG wrote: Or return to the days of fire and brimstone, its probably fear driving the muslims....
Well... He does have a Facebook account.Danger Mouse wrote:
The music may or may not be helping but at least it is an attempt to stay relevant. There's a lot of stuff vying for peoples attention these days, we are in an information rich, instant gratification world and as God doesn't have a twitter account, how do you get new,young members to your church, without alienating the older regulars?
The current methods don't appear to be working either way.
http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/9501270/C ... ligious-NZ
Its the virgins waiting for them in heaven, wouldn't it be hilarious if they were all gay virgins though! Ah crap I blew myself up and it turns out Allah is filming Butt pirates of the Caribbean 17 and I'm roger the cabin boyBG wrote:I think if you started doing some holy hip hop in church, you'd get more people through the door.
Or return to the days of fire and brimstone, its probably fear driving the muslims....
Slowy wrote: That's the problem; everything rewarding is just such hard work. Regret takes much less effort.
Wonder when they stopped being "Moslems" and "Mohammedans".Frey wrote:Muslims in a church? pretty sure they go to mosques.jeremyb wrote:What's interesting about those figures is that I doubt more than 5% of those who have identified as one of the Christian religions would go to church... But Muslims etc go in droves!
Different structure. For Muslims, prayer times happen several times a day, though observation of each is down to practicality and devoutness. And prayer time is shorter. So it's regular, but quick and convenient (never far to a mosque or just pop yer blankey toward Mecca) compared to the big deal TA-DAA! That is church on Sunday.jeremyb wrote:What's interesting about those figures is that I doubt more than 5% of those who have identified as one of the Christian religions would go to church... But Muslims etc go in droves!
jeremyb wrote: Is it true about the bum sex before marriage thing being ok?
Yeah, nah... I was asking about when they stopped, not why.Eruera wrote:Muslims find moslem offensive because it means something along the lines of "hateful evil person" in arabic (can't remember the particulars), and they find mohammadean offensive because Islam is particularly anti-idolatry and it suggests they are worshipping Mohammed and not Allah.
Now how about we bring this back to talking about music