Dragonforce?

slash-ed · Post by **slash-ed** » Mon May 01, 2006 10:32 pm

wow. i just saw that clip.

holy mother of god. if those arent two of the best shredders on the planet...

machina · Post by **machina** » Mon May 01, 2006 10:48 pm

Pffft, those two chumps got nothing on me

Seriously though, how long does it take to become like that? On a more realistic scale, how long does it take to be close to ascend in terms of technical ability (not suggesting ascend is somehow lesser than those two lol). And when I say close, I mean being able to do resonable fast runs. Not as fast as him but fast. And this question excludes tapping and stuff like that.
And yeah, the little window with the solos is pure wankery.
"0mG mY d1cK is BigGEr ThaN y0Urs!!!!111!11!!"
"n0 My diCK pWNs y0uR D1cK L0LZOR!!!1!!!!........w00t."

Gelato · Post by **Gelato** » Mon May 01, 2006 11:14 pm

machina wrote:Seriously though, how long does it take to become like that? On a more realistic scale, how long does it take to be close to ascend in terms of technical ability (not suggesting ascend is somehow lesser than those two lol). And when I say close, I mean being able to do resonable fast runs. Not as fast as him but fast. And this question excludes tapping and stuff like that...

I can't play as fast as Ascend, or anyone in a band that involves dragons, but I have been know to surprise myself with a couple of notes strung together in a quickish fashion

When I first started playing guitar (age 14) I used to play at least 5 hours a day, 10-12 a day on the weekend, and it took a couple of months from not knowing which end of the guitar to hold, to playing some Van Halen stuff. Obviously this was madness and I would highly recommend that you have a life instead of following my regime...

But, I would suggest practising the basic mechanics of alternate picking A LOT. And legato can be your very best "special" friend for sounding fast

And if you can find a surgeon to implant some fast twitch muscle fibers in your fingers, that would help

So yeah, practice... and then practice some more... and then... you get the picture

slash-ed · Post by **slash-ed** » Tue May 02, 2006 7:28 am

holy shit.

so you were that kind eh dude... no wonder ur skills are fucking ace...me on the other hand i had my first 2 years "wasted" on bluesrock type stuff, i've only just started consciously practicing ( and i can normally only manage about a max of 30 mins a day on and off) in the past 6 months or so. god knows it hAS done wonders for my technique tho i still can't figure out how to sweep pick

humphreybear · Post by **humphreybear** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:36 am

whoa they're awesome! but all their songs sound the same especially the drums

foal30 · Post by **foal30** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:29 pm

I see this video on Alt TV
it came right after a live clip of the Stax European Tour (1967?)
Otis Redding backed by the Bar-Kay horns and Booker T and the M.G.s

I left feeling Dragonforce might sort of missed the boat with time spent practicing versus "playing".

Rog · Post by **Rog** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:55 pm

Rog is blown away by the speed and I think they put on a bloody good show!! That said, I tired of it quite quickly and it eventually became so-so to me. Full props for their playing though!!

Probably an age thing, but I prefer more feel and less notes per second in the music I like to listen to. I find more thrill in a long sustained note than I do 64th notes played incessantly.

Clarky · Post by **Clarky** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:14 am

Poor Rog, you must have used up all your hormones....

stuu · Post by **stuu** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:27 pm

Rog wrote:Probably an age thing, but I prefer more feel and less notes per second in the music I like to listen to. I find more thrill in a long sustained note than I do 64th notes played incessantly.

boooooo0000000000OOOOOOOOOO000000OOOOOOOooooooooo!

boooo.

*cough*

Hot_Grits · Post by **Hot_Grits** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:24 pm

machina wrote:Pffft, those two chumps got nothing on me

Seriously though, how long does it take to become like that? On a more realistic scale, how long does it take to be close to ascend in terms of technical ability (not suggesting ascend is somehow lesser than those two lol). And when I say close, I mean being able to do resonable fast runs. Not as fast as him but fast. And this question excludes tapping and stuff like that.
And yeah, the little window with the solos is pure wankery.
"0mG mY d1cK is BigGEr ThaN y0Urs!!!!111!11!!"
"n0 My diCK pWNs y0uR D1cK L0LZOR!!!1!!!!........w00t."

If you're a reasonable player who kind of knows what you are doing and can play some basic solos and a scale or two accurately and cleanly, then a year or two of heavy, intelligent practice will get you pretty chopsed up.

You've got to maintain once you get there, though. At one point in my very misspent teens I had every lick on the first Paul Gilbert video up to speed. for a period after that I lost interest in that style of playing, and my chops suffered as a result. At that level, it's like pro sports: you have to train a lot and make sure the basics are second nature. It's a lot of work that I certainly can't be bothered with nowadays.

Hot_Grits · Post by **Hot_Grits** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:25 pm

foal30 wrote:I see this video on Alt TV
it came right after a live clip of the Stax European Tour (1967?)
Otis Redding backed by the Bar-Kay horns and Booker T and the M.G.s

I left feeling Dragonforce might sort of missed the boat with time spent practicing versus "playing".

Good old Alt. That's eclecticism for ya!

Rog · Post by **Rog** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:43 pm

Poor Rog, you must have used up all your hormones....

Never had a hormone - always paid them well.