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HackSaw
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Re: NP(board)D
I have chicken n chips at home often.
The fuck does Matt have to do to have a thread remain on topic?
The fuck does Matt have to do to have a thread remain on topic?
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Lol. I suspect the answer is 'buy ordinary, uninteresting gear. And that's not going to happen!HackSaw wrote:I have chicken n chips at home often.
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Nothing stays on topic in a forum!
Slowy wrote: That's the problem; everything rewarding is just such hard work. Regret takes much less effort.
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olegmcnoleg wrote:Nonsense JB...
BTW who on earth is that in your new avatar
I finally put up an actual picture of myself!
Slowy wrote: That's the problem; everything rewarding is just such hard work. Regret takes much less effort.
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Cost to manufacture is definitely on topic.
Yes CNC machines make this much faster, and these guys have one. But not cheap machines to buy. There is still a fair amount of manual labour involved in making the case, sanding and multiple coats on the board, R&D/design (I find the design a perfect evolution of pedal trains design which pisses me off with some of its shortcomings.
If PT can charge $270us for the same sized board with hard case, I have no problem paying $400us for this board which has a better design, looks better, is lighter, iec connection etc. You have to consider mass production efficiencies, these guys aren't that large an operation.
Yes CNC machines make this much faster, and these guys have one. But not cheap machines to buy. There is still a fair amount of manual labour involved in making the case, sanding and multiple coats on the board, R&D/design (I find the design a perfect evolution of pedal trains design which pisses me off with some of its shortcomings.
If PT can charge $270us for the same sized board with hard case, I have no problem paying $400us for this board which has a better design, looks better, is lighter, iec connection etc. You have to consider mass production efficiencies, these guys aren't that large an operation.
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Sorted!dayl wrote:Meth Tical
Slowy wrote: That's the problem; everything rewarding is just such hard work. Regret takes much less effort.
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You have to be careful with the CNC costing too - I did a design recently, in terms mulitple boards and angled-riser parts cut out of single sheets of ply - both 'Holeyboard' style and 'PT' slats - and the sheer lineal length of all the cutting certainly added up. Wasn't a huge margin in it... would have to do a LOT to make it work.jeremyb wrote:CNC these days is a really affordable way for cutting the parts, and the plywood part the pedals sit on could be laser cut too for even more speed, you'd get a ton of them out of one sheet of ply... 10 minutes to screw the top on with those L brackets... I would have liked to have seen a better design than that for the money...null_pointer wrote:Sigh. They're nowhere near a couple of hours work unless you want a pretty basic hack job. Ask Si what he spent time-wise on his.
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PS Nice board. Should be fun setting it up. PT3 size probably means you'll need the whole break to do it! Have fun!
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Its probably a one evening job, late at night when the wife has gone to bed. Done it many times before.KentNZ wrote:PS Nice board. Should be fun setting it up. PT3 size probably means you'll need the whole break to do it! Have fun!
The funny thing is there is a good chance that PT3 is too big and I really need a PT2... all hinges on whether I want/need looper/midi switcher or not.
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