The Velcro that’s not Velcro…?

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Re: The Velcro that’s not Velcro…?

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robthemac wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:03 pm
codedog wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:35 pm
robthemac wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:25 pm

Dual Lock seems expensive. But then you see how strong a 10mm x 10mm square is.
Absolutely! It's not actually that expensive considering how much you need.
The first time I used it I put 5cm strips along two sides of my power supply. The outer layers of the plywood separated before the Dual Lock did.
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Yep, glad I saw that on YouTube before I made the same mistake!

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Re: The Velcro that’s not Velcro…?

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This is the one you want. Some hot air on the glue before sticking and it will hold even heavy pedals tight.
To remove from surface, heat again, leaves zero residue.

https://www.clgroup.co.nz/sj356025.html

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Re: The Velcro that’s not Velcro…?

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codedog wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:44 pm
Capt. Black wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:38 pm
codedog wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:23 pm

Pretty sure I have something with this stuff at the bottom, connected to a board that has velcro. It works, but not as strong as homogeneous application. I will verify this when I get home tonight.
Appreciate that. I don't really need tenacious grip. More like less is more and still easily reconfigurable. :)
This is what I have. The PSU has Dual Lock, ex-robthemac. The pedal board already had loops on the bottom, so I kept it. It sticks just fine upside down under the board. Mind you, I wouldn't go swinging it about!


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That was the second power supply I used Dual Lock on, learning from my earlier mistake. Could still probably have used squares half the size. That shit is no joke.

I'm going to reduce down to a smaller board over the next year. Will build it from scratch to the exact size I need. Will do Dual Lock on the board and everything attached to it. Hopefully will discourage me from chopping and changing too much...
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Re: The Velcro that’s not Velcro…?

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Reposting lost comment from yesterday.

Thanks you guys who chipped in with this thread.

I finally got my head around the 3M Dual Lock stuff and the differences.

Thanks JB for th Photogear link! Dropped by there and picked up 3 half meter strips. NB, the link pic shows two halves but it's actually just the single one side of the strip. That's ok though. Cheap enough. Might go grab a bit more.
The shop is clearing their stock at $4/500mm so if anybody else wants to nab some, get in fairly soon.

Spent the afternoon cleaning huge swathes of velcro of the bottom of my pedals and taping small patches of Dual lock to them. This stuff works great! Even on standard pedal board velcro carpet. Holds really firmly but actually found it easier to reposition pedals. :)

Thanks again dudes!

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Thanks to the Captain for the heads up about the sale. I bought 4m for less than I paid for 1m at my local . Planning to go full Dual Lock on both sides when I build a new board.
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Re: The Velcro that’s not Velcro…?

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Just be careful of the black dual lock with the white foam backing, that residue is hard to remove!
The translucent SJ3560 works best from experience.

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blackstratblues wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:34 am Just be careful of the black dual lock with the white foam backing, that residue is hard to remove!
The translucent SJ3560 works best from experience.
The stuff I got has a translucent base.

But there’s a stuff called Shellite you can get from Bunnings. Moves any kind of dirt and residue without stuffing up what’s underneath.
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Re: The Velcro that’s not Velcro…?

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so just to clarify-its the glue that is insanely strong? or both parts?

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Both.

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Kris wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:01 pm so just to clarify-its the glue that is insanely strong? or both parts?
Glue is very strong, but it's not super glue strong. And if you don't have a well-prepped surface you'll have adhesion issues. I sprayed the underside of my board with sanding sealer and flattened it to 600 grit. Trying to just sand the wood wasn't sufficient.
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Replacing all the Velcro on the bottom of my pedals with Dual Lock. Board has loop Velcro on it which will remain. Read a trick online about placing the pedal on the board, pressing down, twisting one way then twisting back the other. Really worked well in locking the pedal down to the Velcro.
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Biggest issue for me has always been the glue-and more often than not on the pedal side .The rockboard stuff has generally served me well though

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Kris wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:51 pm Biggest issue for me has always been the glue-and more often than not on the pedal side .The rockboard stuff has generally served me well though
Tried using a pick or credit card to separate the two sides of the Dual Lock?
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robthemac wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:09 pm
Kris wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:51 pm Biggest issue for me has always been the glue-and more often than not on the pedal side .The rockboard stuff has generally served me well though
Tried using a pick or credit card to separate the two sides of the Dual Lock?
nah i mean the glue not adhering to the pedal and leaving a stuck piece on the board where the pedal had been :)

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