Am I insane?
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twelve pints isnae enuf ta get ya pished so dinae act itdarkness wrote:I swear I'm gonna make you say that next time your drunk.denden wrote:no, no you cantBasket Case wrote:But what I really want to know is... can I play in Cb Myxomatosis over it?
however pentalydianminagor will work perfectly fine
I imagine im going to spend several hours attempting that....
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Re: Am I insane?
Tsuken wrote:A 13th chord is dominant; nothing to do with how you or anyone else want to see it. It implies the presence of the maj3rd, min7th, maj 9th, and 11th as well as the 13th. If you want anything different, you need to specify it, and it's not "a 13th".sgt mukuzi wrote:First three chords are in Bb major if we are thinking in Lydian terms and I amTsuken wrote:
Ebmaj9 | Gmin7 | F13 | Eb13 | Bbmaj9 | Dmin7 | C13 | Bb13 |
Emaj9 | G#min7 | F#13 | E13 | Abmaj9 | Cmin7 | Bb13 | C13
I would like to see what voicing your using for the Eb13, I read a thirteen chord as dominant, the 13 would need the 7th so the Db changes key from Bb to ______ then were back to Bb major with the three minor chord being D minor. The Db is a roving Neapolitan
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Then we have two dominant chords in the shape of C7 and Bb7
Again I will need the voicing to work these out; looking directly at them I see a roving dominant sonority.
E major awaits after the B13, so we have a G leading to E major also a Bb moving to Ab to accommodate the E major chord.
G#minor still in E, F#13 dominant in E if were still thinking Lydian
E13, again I need the voicing as 13 = dominant, have we changed to D major?
No, were in Ab major, still thinking Lydian our C Minor and Bb13 fit in.
The dominant C chord I will need to see the voicing.
Guessing I would say the sonority set up by the roving Neapolitan lets the ear hear the changes
If the thirteen chords lack a seven then were looking at stacked fourths
If the dominant is voiced 7, 3, 13 then we need to relable the dominant chord to the tritone
Giving us a #9
If we have a sharp nine dominant then we can see the accidentals
It's actually not all that complex a progression; just a bit strange. It's the same prgression (I vi II(dom) I (dom) ) in 4 different keys - which I think is much easier to understand than looking at it as one big progression. It begins in Ebmaj, goes to Bbmaj, then to Emaj (the completely insane bit ), then Ab maj (moderately weird).
If I recall correctly, one of the chords I labelled 13ths is actually not a 13th - but is dominant, so functionally it's the same (though I can't recall the actual voicings I played).
What I actually find interesting is how a key change that really oughtn't to work, can.
*crying* "Mummy, I don't understand what these men are saying to me...boo hooo"....
I have dudes I play with (musically) who are into all this...and the way they play, and how we work together makes no sense...i.e, I can "feel" the passage, and they must dissect it...in most cases, and I know I am ybringing Tsuken's rediclure on me, my non-theoretically based solution always sounds best....
"Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible god and destroys a visible nature. Unaware that this nature he's destroying is this god he's worshipping." - Hubert Reeves
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