CRC causing string breakage?
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Re: CRC causing string breakage?
Try the SRV way, A 5/8"-long piece of plastic tubing (insulation from electrical wire) over each string to protect it from the metal "break points".It worked for Stevie
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Re: CRC causing string breakage?
True. This could be worth a try. I guess it wouldn't go ove the saddles, that seems like it would mute the string. But just over the bend points at the bridge before the saddle, right?philbit wrote:Try the SRV way, A 5/8"-long piece of plastic tubing (insulation from electrical wire) over each string to protect it from the metal "break points".It worked for Stevie
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Re: CRC causing string breakage?
Wow - I hadn't heard of that before. Love to hear if it works mr Sooty?
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Re: CRC causing string breakage?
So the strings are snapping at the saddle?
You could try the old pencil-lead trick, see if that helps.
You could try the old pencil-lead trick, see if that helps.
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Re: CRC causing string breakage?
Saddles: vintage replacement saddles, not matched, modified to increase the angle of the string break over the contact point to reduce string breakage. The strings were also run through a small piece of plastic tubing from inside the tremolo block hole beyond the saddle contact point, also to reduce string breakage. The block/bridge top plate is also ground to elminate the sharp edge where the string contacts the metal.Rog wrote:Wow - I hadn't heard of that before. Love to hear if it works mr Sooty?
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Re: CRC causing string breakage?
I believe the new vintage style saddles on the 08 version of the American Standard (which I have) has a similar modification to the saddles, to decrease string breakage like that. Clearly it doesn't work.
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Re: CRC causing string breakage?
A set of Stringsaver saddles might end up costing less than another months worth of strings by the sound of it.mr_sooty wrote:I believe the new vintage style saddles on the 08 version of the American Standard (which I have) has a similar modification to the saddles, to decrease string breakage like that. Clearly it doesn't work.
I have a set handy if you're interested. Or Ferraglide saddles if you want to retain the stock steely tone and have a few more months worth of strings to save.
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Re: CRC causing string breakage?
The only thing with the string saver saddles is that I don't really like the look, I like my Strats to look fairly classic. But how much are they anyway?
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Re: CRC causing string breakage?
$65 for the black ones. $105 for the steel ones with the little black graphtech insert. That could probably be done to the existing saddles for less though.
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Re: CRC causing string breakage?
Anybody mention maker of the strings as being the culprit? People will have different experiences, but I've always found E Ball and Fender strings hopeless, they've broken promptly whenever I've used them, so I avoid them. I also found that a set of so called 'cryogenic' strings were also brittle and I won't be trying them again.
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Re: CRC causing string breakage?
i've actually found E ball to be really good, haven't actually broken a string in 9+months (and there are times when im hammering the hell outta them )and the coated beefy slinkys im using now seem to be even betterEars wrote:Anybody mention maker of the strings as being the culprit? People will have different experiences, but I've always found E Ball and Fender strings hopeless, they've broken promptly whenever I've used them, so I avoid them. I also found that a set of so called 'cryogenic' strings were also brittle and I won't be trying them again.
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Re: CRC causing string breakage?
+1 I've used EBs for ages now, I use relatively light strings compared to a lot of you (9-42s), and I'm quite a brutish and percussive player... but they never break. Whatever strings ash put on my custom as well, they haven't broken (I haven't changed them since I got it!), and haven't gone overly dead (although that will probably be disproved the moment new strings get put on )
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Re: CRC causing string breakage?
I have a set and I agree with you - I prefer the originals for aesthetic reasons. However when I went to replace one of my originals, string savers were half the price of Fender replacements.mr_sooty wrote:The only thing with the string saver saddles is that I don't really like the look, I like my Strats to look fairly classic. But how much are they anyway?
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Re: CRC causing string breakage?
I found EB to rust very quickly.
But I can't help with the string breaking... I've played for about 10 years, and have never broken a string while playing!
But I can't help with the string breaking... I've played for about 10 years, and have never broken a string while playing!
Ummm....
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Re: CRC causing string breakage?
Are you for real??? How does that happen .sopachrga wrote: never broken a string while playing!
I've broken many, both live and at home, pick thickness sometimes, to rough other times... with my old Ibanez I had "locking trem model" I had to change the springs as strings broke regular. My current Ibanez I break a string here and there, mainly from a extra bend, or to much whiskey or both! I break strings on my acoustics from mainly to much whiskey, or my pick gauge. Breaking strings is part of playing guitar, just breaking many often is out of the ordinary, and then using CRC is just hilarious
I've never heard of never breaking a string while playing
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