Strat chat

[Molly]

Yep and I love the tone on that song, thats my ideal blues tone And yeah he does look like a fifties throwback

Some of Gary's blues stuff is actually quite good - blues for greeny is pretty restrained. But the later albums were just running through the motions. He did reinvigorate the career of a couple of the old blues guys like Albert Collins who was pretty much living in hostels and stuff at that point, so I admire him muchly for that.

That's nice to hear but I just recall pictures of him grimacing whilst wearing a studded wristband and wondering what bandwagon he'd be on next week. This is the guy that played epic stuff with Colosseum II and whilst guesting with Cozy Powell (Dartmoor is a good starter). He was a superb player who I guess just had to pay the bills.

[willow13]

Yep and I love the tone on that song, thats my ideal blues tone And yeah he does look like a fifties throwback

yeah totally agree...just wish I could make that type of tine sound good .. I love gain but if I used cleanish tones the Jimmies would be it for sure

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Yep and I love the tone on that song, thats my ideal blues tone And yeah he does look like a fifties throwback

yeah totally agree...just wish I could make that type of tine sound good .. I love gain but if I used cleanish tones the Jimmies would be it for sure

Can you get that tone with the Peavey or do you need to use katana magic

[willow13]

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Can you get that tone with the Peavey or do you need to use katana magic

oh the Katana sure does it but with me playing it just sounds meh ...actually had the day off because of rain and spent a good 5 hrs playing the katana and downloading patches and what is very obvious is how much better the "user" patches are compared to the stuff on the line 6 forums...I download an eruption tone that is just killer. And got a YJM patch that just sound fantastic (although I had to do a little bit of editing to get it "there")

seriously this thing keeps impressing me ..after a slow start

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yeah I've bitten the bullet, theres a ga-fs with my name on it at the rockshop
I'm actually just using the built in 5 amps at present, can't fault the clean at all, really good tone

[jeremyb]

I'm just using the clean amp and pedals now

[willow13]

I'm just using the clean amp and pedals now

of that works for then awesome.....does seem like a waste though

I need to get the foot switch thing now though

[jeremyb]

I don't think it's a waste, I like that I can use it by itself with all the bells and whistles and just with pedals too

[willow13]

I don't think it's a waste, I like that I can use it by itself with all the bells and whistles and just with pedals too

admit it. you have a pedal addiction..the KOC is just not enough

[Mini Forklift]

The only reason Gary Moore sold his famous 59 'Greeny' LP was because he was under a bit of financial strain. Can't quite believe Kirk Hammett has it now ?!

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The only reason Gary Moore sold his famous 59 'Greeny' LP was because he was under a bit of financial strain. Can't quite believe Kirk Hammett has it now ?!

Yeah cancelled a tour and it left him well out of pocket, guitar center bought it IIRC. Just another guitar...

Story goes Kirk wanted to cop the tone from Still Got the Blues, and couldn't believe it was just Les Paul and Marshall dimed dunno how much truth is in that but I'd not be surprised.

[Danger Mouse]

I like SRV and don't mind a bit of generic Texas blues stratiness, but that vid is bloody awful. Guitar shop blues at its worst.

Do you think tone and technique have been devalued by their accessibility? I swear I can recall that not knowing the word 'distortion' made it impossible for me to describe what I wanted my guitar to sound like. My dad bought me a Mr Twang combo with tremolo circuit because to him Hank Marvin was the pinnacle of guitar tone. I wanted a Brian May sound. By chance I heard a sales guy demoing a Badger combo and he was making 'that' sound. And as for technique, I'd record radio interviews with the likes of Clapton on the off-chance he'd give something away. That and playing stuff over and over again to try to get a handle on it.

I know that's all a bit 'jumpers for goal posts' but the point is that any technique and tone is just a few clicks away so there's no mystery. Is that why it's now possible to listen to and readily dismiss someone like Dan Patlansky? Has YouTube moved our expectations so far forward that we just want something inaccessible before we'll be impressed?

I agree that anyone can buy the right gear and a copy of 1001 Greatest Blues Licks, so there is no mystery in being able to play like any of the greats. But there is, and always has been, much more to being a great blues guitarist than knowing all the good licks.

The reason I don't like that vid isn't because he treads such a well worn path, but because he treads it so poorly. Technique for technique's sake, flashy licks simply because they are flashy, but poor timing and very little feel sucking the life out of what he's playing. Doing what everyone else is doing isn't a problem for me, just as long as its being done well.

[Molly]

I like SRV and don't mind a bit of generic Texas blues stratiness, but that vid is bloody awful. Guitar shop blues at its worst.

Do you think tone and technique have been devalued by their accessibility? I swear I can recall that not knowing the word 'distortion' made it impossible for me to describe what I wanted my guitar to sound like. My dad bought me a Mr Twang combo with tremolo circuit because to him Hank Marvin was the pinnacle of guitar tone. I wanted a Brian May sound. By chance I heard a sales guy demoing a Badger combo and he was making 'that' sound. And as for technique, I'd record radio interviews with the likes of Clapton on the off-chance he'd give something away. That and playing stuff over and over again to try to get a handle on it.

I know that's all a bit 'jumpers for goal posts' but the point is that any technique and tone is just a few clicks away so there's no mystery. Is that why it's now possible to listen to and readily dismiss someone like Dan Patlansky? Has YouTube moved our expectations so far forward that we just want something inaccessible before we'll be impressed?

I agree that anyone can buy the right gear and a copy of 1001 Greatest Blues Licks, so there is no mystery in being able to play like any of the greats. But there is, and always has been, much more to being a great blues guitarist than knowing all the good licks.

The reason I don't like that vid isn't because he treads such a well worn path, but because he treads it so poorly. Technique for technique's sake, flashy licks simply because they are flashy, but poor timing and very little feel sucking the life out of what he's playing. Doing what everyone else is doing isn't a problem for me, just as long as its being done well.

I hear ya. Some guys have it and some don't. Some players have you hanging on their every note and some are instantly forgettable. For a great example of the former check out Derek Trucks version of Keep On Growing from Live From The Fox Oakland. For the latter check out almost everybody else.

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As much as I love trucksy, he does go overboard at times - his solos quite often are structured the same, but its an awesome trick

[Danger Mouse]

I hear ya. Some guys have it and some don't. Some players have you hanging on their every note and some are instantly forgettable. For a great example of the former check out Derek Trucks version of Keep On Growing from Live From The Fox Oakland. For the latter check out almost everybody else.

I've not had the level of exposure to Derek Trucks BG has but he's exactly who I'd pick for a great example of getting it right too. I hear him and I think "oh yeah, that's right he's really good, not just good he's... HOLY SHIT that is awesome playing!". Billy Gibbons, before he bought a drum machine, is up there too.