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Re: Favourite Guitar Company
Like a few others a Jackson Soloist was a dream guitar, which got switched to a King V when I started getting into Megadeth.
In the 90's I had an American workmate and friend, also a guitarist, who was going back to the 'States to see his family for a few weeks, I asked him if he could grab me a King V from his local guitar megastore, kind of as a joke,
"Hey do you want me to grab anything from the 'States while I'm over there?".
"Sure, a King V if you see one".
When he got back he said he went into the place and ended up asking about an unloved and dusty USA King V they had tucked away in a corner. The sales guy told him he could have a super deal on it, as no-one wanted it, seems the association with it being Dave Mustaine's guitar wasn't exactly a big selling point.
Was kind of gutted that both one of my dream guitars and one of my guitar heros were both considered a bit of a joke. And also that my mate didn't grab me an obvious bargain.
In the 90's I had an American workmate and friend, also a guitarist, who was going back to the 'States to see his family for a few weeks, I asked him if he could grab me a King V from his local guitar megastore, kind of as a joke,
"Hey do you want me to grab anything from the 'States while I'm over there?".
"Sure, a King V if you see one".
When he got back he said he went into the place and ended up asking about an unloved and dusty USA King V they had tucked away in a corner. The sales guy told him he could have a super deal on it, as no-one wanted it, seems the association with it being Dave Mustaine's guitar wasn't exactly a big selling point.
Was kind of gutted that both one of my dream guitars and one of my guitar heros were both considered a bit of a joke. And also that my mate didn't grab me an obvious bargain.
The older I get, the more disappointed in myself I become.
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Re: Favourite Guitar Company
dude, it`s a guitar. it`s not art. some are classy looking, shiny and a little overdone, blingy and uncalled for but not art.jeremyb wrote:PRS look great, but they are art, not instruments, one mark and they're ruined IMHO.
GG Allin and large Tins of soup are art. or large monochrome painted canvases next to a small canvas with a cross painted on it is art. or some 19 year old wearing a white linen sheet spinning around in circles is art. or that rock over there, that leaf the whistle from the breeze, all art mate, check it out.
There are still some that think the neck PU is moved to accommodate the extra frets which only proves they cannot detect the difference in length of each.
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Re: Favourite Guitar Company
just to add to the Jackson debate, my feeling is around 1983 or so, most/some of the Kramer/Jackson/charvel bolt on`s were parts guitars supplied by ESP from 48 street guitars.
the 1981 ESP catalog has almost all of the headstock designs'
the 1981 ESP catalog has almost all of the headstock designs'
There are still some that think the neck PU is moved to accommodate the extra frets which only proves they cannot detect the difference in length of each.
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I dunno if you can class a deranged dude who wiped his own shit over himself as art!mrmofo wrote:dude, it`s a guitar. it`s not art. some are classy looking, shiny and a little overdone, blingy and uncalled for but not art.jeremyb wrote:PRS look great, but they are art, not instruments, one mark and they're ruined IMHO.
GG Allin and large Tins of soup are art. or large monochrome painted canvases next to a small canvas with a cross painted on it is art. or some 19 year old wearing a white linen sheet spinning around in circles is art. or that rock over there, that leaf the whistle from the breeze, all art mate, check it out.
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Rude not to.
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that's interesting...I remember wanting a Rhoads V and when they started making import series I was dead set on getting a Rhoads when they finally became available here in NZ. Walked into the rockshop and saw a few Rhoads but instantly grabbed the King V instead....I was going to buy it without even plugging it in but they guy in the shop said don't you want to try it first ... ended up getting it and never did try a Rhoads. In fact it was only around 18mths ago that I played my first Jackson Rhoads which I bought of TM..so I got that without ever trying it These were of course "cheaper" models so I still have massive desire for an RR1Danger Mouse wrote:Like a few others a Jackson Soloist was a dream guitar, which got switched to a King V when I started getting into Megadeth.
In the 90's I had an American workmate and friend, also a guitarist, who was going back to the 'States to see his family for a few weeks, I asked him if he could grab me a King V from his local guitar megastore, kind of as a joke,
"Hey do you want me to grab anything from the 'States while I'm over there?".
"Sure, a King V if you see one".
When he got back he said he went into the place and ended up asking about an unloved and dusty USA King V they had tucked away in a corner. The sales guy told him he could have a super deal on it, as no-one wanted it, seems the association with it being Dave Mustaine's guitar wasn't exactly a big selling point.
Was kind of gutted that both one of my dream guitars and one of my guitar heros were both considered a bit of a joke. And also that my mate didn't grab me an obvious bargain.
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Better than wiping somebody else's.... I think.jeremyb wrote:I dunno if you can class a deranged dude who wiped his own shit over himself as art!mrmofo wrote:dude, it`s a guitar. it`s not art. some are classy looking, shiny and a little overdone, blingy and uncalled for but not art.jeremyb wrote:PRS look great, but they are art, not instruments, one mark and they're ruined IMHO.
GG Allin and large Tins of soup are art. or large monochrome painted canvases next to a small canvas with a cross painted on it is art. or some 19 year old wearing a white linen sheet spinning around in circles is art. or that rock over there, that leaf the whistle from the breeze, all art mate, check it out.
What about Robert Maplethorpe? Piss Christ, or a guy with a bull whip up his arse? I guess if it's funded with public money it must be art.
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Got to agree with all the Jackson fans here.
When I was 12 my dad bought my my first proper electric, a '92 MIJ Jackson Dinky. Amazing guitar, still have it and I'll never sell it.
Most of the bands I liked growing up (Metallica/Megadeth) played Jacksons so I always wanted one. And every Jackson I've owned/played has been top notch, mostly Jap made ones. Pretty keen to get a USA Jackson next.
When I was 12 my dad bought my my first proper electric, a '92 MIJ Jackson Dinky. Amazing guitar, still have it and I'll never sell it.
Most of the bands I liked growing up (Metallica/Megadeth) played Jacksons so I always wanted one. And every Jackson I've owned/played has been top notch, mostly Jap made ones. Pretty keen to get a USA Jackson next.
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I got mine for about 700 quid from a posh kid in a nice leafy Manchester suburb.willow13 wrote:that's interesting...I remember wanting a Rhoads V and when they started making import series I was dead set on getting a Rhoads when they finally became available here in NZ. Walked into the rockshop and saw a few Rhoads but instantly grabbed the King V instead....I was going to buy it without even plugging it in but they guy in the shop said don't you want to try it first ... ended up getting it and never did try a Rhoads. In fact it was only around 18mths ago that I played my first Jackson Rhoads which I bought of TM..so I got that without ever trying it These were of course "cheaper" models so I still have massive desire for an RR1Danger Mouse wrote:Like a few others a Jackson Soloist was a dream guitar, which got switched to a King V when I started getting into Megadeth.
In the 90's I had an American workmate and friend, also a guitarist, who was going back to the 'States to see his family for a few weeks, I asked him if he could grab me a King V from his local guitar megastore, kind of as a joke,
"Hey do you want me to grab anything from the 'States while I'm over there?".
"Sure, a King V if you see one".
When he got back he said he went into the place and ended up asking about an unloved and dusty USA King V they had tucked away in a corner. The sales guy told him he could have a super deal on it, as no-one wanted it, seems the association with it being Dave Mustaine's guitar wasn't exactly a big selling point.
Was kind of gutted that both one of my dream guitars and one of my guitar heros were both considered a bit of a joke. And also that my mate didn't grab me an obvious bargain.
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I bought one last night!jaxman16 wrote:Got to agree with all the Jackson fans here.
When I was 12 my dad bought my my first proper electric, a '92 MIJ Jackson Dinky. Amazing guitar, still have it and I'll never sell it.
Most of the bands I liked growing up (Metallica/Megadeth) played Jacksons so I always wanted one. And every Jackson I've owned/played has been top notch, mostly Jap made ones. Pretty keen to get a USA Jackson next.
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Really! What did you buy?Molly wrote:I bought one last night!jaxman16 wrote:Got to agree with all the Jackson fans here.
When I was 12 my dad bought my my first proper electric, a '92 MIJ Jackson Dinky. Amazing guitar, still have it and I'll never sell it.
Most of the bands I liked growing up (Metallica/Megadeth) played Jacksons so I always wanted one. And every Jackson I've owned/played has been top notch, mostly Jap made ones. Pretty keen to get a USA Jackson next.
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that makes some sense from a charvel point of view but I don't think Jackson started making bolt on guitars till much later than that. Jackson guitars were basically "customshop" guitars until the mid 80's and then the only production guitars they made were high end generally neck thru. They didn't start making cheaper versions until 1990, most of them were bolt on and were made in japan.mrmofo wrote:just to add to the Jackson debate, my feeling is around 1983 or so, most/some of the Kramer/Jackson/charvel bolt on`s were parts guitars supplied by ESP from 48 street guitars.
the 1981 ESP catalog has almost all of the headstock designs'
The Charvel thing makes sense because basically Charvel never actually "built" a guitar from scratch until well after Grover bought the company off wayne charvel in 78. Up until then they were purely a partscaster company that bought pre made parts and bolt them together and gave them wicked paint jobs
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Why?jeremyb wrote:I dunno if you can class a deranged dude who wiped his own shit over himself as art!mrmofo wrote:dude, it`s a guitar. it`s not art. some are classy looking, shiny and a little overdone, blingy and uncalled for but not art.jeremyb wrote:PRS look great, but they are art, not instruments, one mark and they're ruined IMHO.
GG Allin and large Tins of soup are art. or large monochrome painted canvases next to a small canvas with a cross painted on it is art. or some 19 year old wearing a white linen sheet spinning around in circles is art. or that rock over there, that leaf the whistle from the breeze, all art mate, check it out.
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yes agree with you, the Jackson Neck through guitars were made by Jackson. would love to have one.willow13 wrote:that makes some sense from a charvel point of view but I don't think Jackson started making bolt on guitars till much later than that. Jackson guitars were basically "customshop" guitars until the mid 80's and then the only production guitars they made were high end generally neck thru. They didn't start making cheaper versions until 1990, most of them were bolt on and were made in japan.mrmofo wrote:just to add to the Jackson debate, my feeling is around 1983 or so, most/some of the Kramer/Jackson/charvel bolt on`s were parts guitars supplied by ESP from 48 street guitars.
the 1981 ESP catalog has almost all of the headstock designs'
The Charvel thing makes sense because basically Charvel never actually "built" a guitar from scratch until well after Grover bought the company off wayne charvel in 78. Up until then they were purely a partscaster company that bought pre made parts and bolt them together and gave them wicked paint jobs
ESP were Electric Sound Products working out of 48 street, they hired out P.A gear and sold guitar necks and bodies. Japanese owned company based in NY. shame ESP now don't talk about it, they are a forward looking company, any talk of there old guitars takes the spotlight from the ones they have just made.
There are still some that think the neck PU is moved to accommodate the extra frets which only proves they cannot detect the difference in length of each.