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What's a bog standard (!) OM-45 go for these days? That is, a vintage one.
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FunkUncle wrote:What's a bog standard (!) OM-45 go for these days? That is, a vintage one.
Dunno. But there's this:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Martin-OM-45-Del ... 20e28ef0c7

Looking at my Mike Longworth Martin history reveals these production numbers:

1930. OM45, 19. OM45 DLX, 14
1931. OM45, 10.
1932. OM 45, 5.
1933. OM45, 6.

From the book,
Deluxe model had all the features of the OM45 plus:
Snowflake inlays on ends of bridge.
Pickguard inalid with pearl design.
Gold plated banjo type pegs, engraved and with genuine pearl knobs.

All genuine 1930s OM45s came with banjo pegs. Something that's not generally understood given the number that have been modified.
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Great info Slowie! There is something special about the soloist (cutaway OM) design... obviously TJ, Dana Bourgeois and a few others are still making them but I had the pleasure of playing a Martin OMC-28 Laurence Juber signature model (two actually, one Braz, one Indian RW, A/B test side by side) and they were both spectacular, so Martin are no slouch in the Soloist department either.

What year was your Braz D28? Do you still have it?

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Just found this. Funky's closer to the mark than I am, even though this is a battered celebrity item.
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/musi ... tails.aspx

@ Rob.

Mine was a 1957. It was stolen from my home in Melbourne in 1981. :x
I've never played a Laurence Juber, but I've long thought it's probably the one acoustic guitar I still need.
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slowfingers wrote:Just found this. Funky's closer to the mark than I am, even though this is a battered celebrity item.
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/musi ... tails.aspx

@ Rob.

Mine was a 1957. It was stolen from my home in Melbourne in 1981. :x
I've never played a Laurence Juber, but I've long thought it's probably the one acoustic guitar I still need.
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The Juber signature models are amazing. Easily the best new Martins I have played. Honorable mention must go to a recent 000-18 Golden Era (the 1937 reissue) those are very very special. We were lucky to be able to compare the two Juber's with a brand new OM-21 (which kept up and sounded great) and a Bourgois JOM (jumbo OM) which more than held it's own.

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There's something about those GE models. I've played 2 D18GEs and they were both beyond spectacular. I finally understood what George Gruhn means when he describes a guitar as a cannon.
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Nice Madagascar Juber for sale. I believe they made 50 with Brazillian RW back and sides, 133 with Indian RW, and 133 (or 50?) with Madagascar.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Martin-OMC-28M- ... 35d3828f5f

There is a Brazillian back and sides OMC-28 Available from The Fellowship of Acoustics in Europe, price was $125000 Euro last I checked... (!!!)

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slowfingers wrote:There's something about those GE models. I've played 2 D18GEs and they were both beyond spectacular. I finally understood what George Gruhn means when he describes a guitar as a cannon.
D18GE, Nice! I'm disappointed they no longer make the Golden Era as they seem to be focusing on the Vintage and Marquis series instead. Still plenty on the used market though.

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As long as Townshend doesn't stick his hand up ;)
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slowfingers wrote:
FunkUncle wrote:What's a bog standard (!) OM-45 go for these days? That is, a vintage one.
Dunno. But there's this:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Martin-OM-45-Del ... 20e28ef0c7

Looking at my Mike Longworth Martin history reveals these production numbers:

1930. OM45, 19. OM45 DLX, 14
1931. OM45, 10.
1932. OM 45, 5.
1933. OM45, 6.

From the book,
Deluxe model had all the features of the OM45 plus:
Snowflake inlays on ends of bridge.
Pickguard inalid with pearl design.
Gold plated banjo type pegs, engraved and with genuine pearl knobs.

All genuine 1930s OM45s came with banjo pegs. Something that's not generally understood given the number that have been modified.
Well done my man. The original page seems to offer me more photos now....but still, I canny see wtf has been going on with the auctions per se. And that will be because I haven't paid the squillions entry price :oh:
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You guys are all talking guitars. I just wanted to know what it was all adding up to. So thanks to Acrobat for the 'save as spreadsheet' option - and...

Estimates add up to, low to high...

$20,436,750 to $23,775,500 (!)

That's quite a pile of guitars, no matter which way you play them!
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I just looked at the photos of the OM45. It's condition is unbelievable.. looks brand new! :wtf: I assumed it would be showing at least some of its 84 years.
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[quote="slowfingers"]Just found this. Funky's closer to the mark than I am, even though this is a battered celebrity item.
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/musi ... tails.aspx/quote]

Those tuners are HORRENDOUS!

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robnobcorncob wrote:
slowfingers wrote:Just found this. Funky's closer to the mark than I am, even though this is a battered celebrity item.
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/musi ... tails.aspx/quote]

Those tuners are HORRENDOUS!

"Until now, it was traditionally believed that only 14 OM-45 Deluxe's were manufactured in 1930. This guitar, and the resulting research by archivist and author John Woodland, has brought to light that the C.F. Martin and Company in fact manufactured 15 of these instruments. Bearing the serial number 42125, this guitar was the first example produced and was shipped by Frank Henry Martin on May 29, 1930 to the San Francisco firm of Sherman Clay."

Thickens, the plot does. 42125 is a certified 1930 serial number.
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slowfingers wrote:
robnobcorncob wrote:
slowfingers wrote:Just found this. Funky's closer to the mark than I am, even though this is a battered celebrity item.
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/musi ... tails.aspx/quote]

Those tuners are HORRENDOUS!

"Until now, it was traditionally believed that only 14 OM-45 Deluxe's were manufactured in 1930. This guitar, and the resulting research by archivist and author John Woodland, has brought to light that the C.F. Martin and Company in fact manufactured 15 of these instruments. Bearing the serial number 42125, this guitar was the first example produced and was shipped by Frank Henry Martin on May 29, 1930 to the San Francisco firm of Sherman Clay."

Thickens, the plot does. 42125 is a certified 1930 serial number.
*Rubs hands together with glee*

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