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Vintage Superbass rig - will it harm speakers to play bass through them?

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:36 pm
by fyrbyrd
Hi, I have a 1974 year Superbass head that I usually use with a 2 X 15 inch bass cabinet. However, I've recently acquired a couple of 1980s era Marshall 1936 2 X 12 cabinets. They sound quite nice matched to the Superbass with a guitar. Now I'm intrigued by whether I could play bass through this rig? Would the speakers get harmed by low frequencies at gig level volumes?
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Re: Vintage Superbass rig - will it harm speakers to play bass through them?

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:40 pm
by rickenbackerkid
Very unlikely

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:55 pm
by AiRdAd
The best thing to do is sell it to me. But seriously, I run my jtm45/100 in a similar way. I run it into a bass cab. The other day I played the bass into the guitar cabinet, but I only did it at very low volumes. It didn't really sound any better than my bass cabinet, so wouldn't really be worth doing, as you're risking blowing your speakers.

Re: Vintage Superbass rig - will it harm speakers to play bass through them?

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:00 pm
by fyrbyrd
OK, thanks, that's what I thought. To be honest, I didnt think it would sound better, but it would look the business. I might think about changing the speakers to 12 inch bass speakers if I can find any.

Re: Vintage Superbass rig - will it harm speakers to play bass through them?

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:21 pm
by rickenbackerkid
I wouldn’t bother . . . You’d be much better off using an actual bass cab. The sound of a bass cab is maybe 10% the speaker, and 90% the design of the cabinet. I doubt putting bass speakers in a guitar cab will give you the result you want . . .

Re: Vintage Superbass rig - will it harm speakers to play bass through them?

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:33 pm
by higainer
I've always understood playing a guitar thru that rig is fine.

However bass thru guitar speakers, especially at volume is a no-no due to the low frequencies.

Re: Vintage Superbass rig - will it harm speakers to play bass through them?

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:59 pm
by Capt. Black
I've got two of these '74 Super Bass amps. I've run one as bass amp through A guitar cab a couple times over the years. I don't thing it'll harm your speakers. The amp isn't really very bass-y. It just gets super distorted and tends to push the mids. Much a like very low tuned guitar. But not in a good way.
A bass cab and 15s would sound better for bass I reckon. But still very overdriven.

Re: Vintage Superbass rig - will it harm speakers to play bass through them?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:06 am
by Bg
bbrunskill wrote:I wouldn’t bother . . . You’d be much better off using an actual bass cab. The sound of a bass cab is maybe 10% the speaker, and 90% the design of the cabinet. I doubt putting bass speakers in a guitar cab will give you the result you want . . .
Hmmm I'd say maybe 50/50 there. Cabs are important but having a big fuck off speaker that isn't going to sound farty is equally important. Hence the size of your standard woofer driver compared to a mid range....

Re: Vintage Superbass rig - will it harm speakers to play bass through them?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:27 am
by fyrbyrd
I've spoken to my amp tech who can get 12 inch bass speakers that can go right in and install a port. They are birch ply cabinets. I figure that as a bass player With this the bins will get used, whereas won't get much use as guitar cabs. If it doesn't work I can swap the speakers Back. They don't need to deliver super loud volume. My normal 2 x 15 cab will no doubt sound better but it is a heavy beast.

Re: Vintage Superbass rig - will it harm speakers to play bass through them?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:03 am
by calling card
Makes me want to do something really loud looking at that rig.

Re: Vintage Superbass rig - will it harm speakers to play bass through them?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:19 am
by mrmofo
imo you could remove one of the handles and use that as a port then you wont have to cut the cab and harm the resale.

Re: Vintage Superbass rig - will it harm speakers to play bass through them?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:39 am
by fyrbyrd
Great idea about using a handle hole for a port. My techo designs and builds speaker cabs so they may have a view about where the port needs to go.

Re: Vintage Superbass rig - will it harm speakers to play bass through them?

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:50 am
by Single coil
Shouldn't do damage but it'll sound a bit toilet.

Re: Vintage Superbass rig - will it harm speakers to play bass through them?

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:55 pm
by fyrbyrd
Well I got Weta guitars to install 12 inch bass speakers, and the cabs did not even need a port to be added. The rig with the superbass amp sounds wickedly crunchy, quite different from with my 2X 15 cab. I get to try it out at a gig on Friday ....
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