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Re: A/B/Y pedal build

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:31 pm
by FuzzMonkey
jeremyb wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:33 am If that library doesn't support it I think I have figured out a way to make the long press work without releasing, at least in my head, just might require some extra state to be stored...
Like a momentary function?

Re: A/B/Y pedal build

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:32 pm
by jeremyb
FuzzMonkey wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:31 pm
jeremyb wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:33 am If that library doesn't support it I think I have figured out a way to make the long press work without releasing, at least in my head, just might require some extra state to be stored...
Like a momentary function?
Yeah so it triggers without releasing the button :-)

Re: A/B/Y pedal build

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:46 pm
by sty
jeremyb wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:32 pm
FuzzMonkey wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:31 pm
jeremyb wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:33 am If that library doesn't support it I think I have figured out a way to make the long press work without releasing, at least in my head, just might require some extra state to be stored...
Like a momentary function?
Yeah so it triggers without releasing the button :-)
Yeah, you really want it to detect a long click and switch as soon as it's happy. Assuming a 2nd long click takes you back to exactly what you had before the first long click?

Years ago I toyed with idea of building a patcher/looper using relays and a controller like this. You put X pedals into the loops, one each or a couple, you have Y buttons and program which of the X loops are on/off for each Y. Of course there are multi-fx which are pretty bloody good at this now so never bothered

Re: A/B/Y pedal build

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:12 pm
by jeremyb
sty wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:46 pm
jeremyb wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:32 pm
FuzzMonkey wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:31 pm

Like a momentary function?
Yeah so it triggers without releasing the button :-)
Yeah, you really want it to detect a long click and switch as soon as it's happy. Assuming a 2nd long click takes you back to exactly what you had before the first long click?

Years ago I toyed with idea of building a patcher/looper using relays and a controller like this. You put X pedals into the loops, one each or a couple, you have Y buttons and program which of the X loops are on/off for each Y. Of course there are multi-fx which are pretty bloody good at this now so never bothered
Plan is another short click takes it back to the previous state :-)

Re: A/B/Y pedal build

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:14 pm
by Bg
jeremyb wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:12 pm
sty wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:46 pm
jeremyb wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:32 pm

Yeah so it triggers without releasing the button :-)
Yeah, you really want it to detect a long click and switch as soon as it's happy. Assuming a 2nd long click takes you back to exactly what you had before the first long click?

Years ago I toyed with idea of building a patcher/looper using relays and a controller like this. You put X pedals into the loops, one each or a couple, you have Y buttons and program which of the X loops are on/off for each Y. Of course there are multi-fx which are pretty bloody good at this now so never bothered
Plan is another short click takes it back to the previous state :-)
any progress yet?

Re: A/B/Y pedal build

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:49 pm
by jeremyb
Bg wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:14 pm
jeremyb wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:12 pm
sty wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:46 pm

Yeah, you really want it to detect a long click and switch as soon as it's happy. Assuming a 2nd long click takes you back to exactly what you had before the first long click?

Years ago I toyed with idea of building a patcher/looper using relays and a controller like this. You put X pedals into the loops, one each or a couple, you have Y buttons and program which of the X loops are on/off for each Y. Of course there are multi-fx which are pretty bloody good at this now so never bothered
Plan is another short click takes it back to the previous state :-)
any progress yet?
Got distracted with doing a water slide decal for another pedal ;-)

Re: A/B/Y pedal build

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:16 pm
by FuzzMonkey
I'm trying not to go down an A/B/Y pedal rabbit hole now. But it is a slippery slope.

Re: A/B/Y pedal build

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:31 pm
by jeremyb
FuzzMonkey wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:16 pm I'm trying not to go down an A/B/Y pedal rabbit hole now. But it is a slippery slope.
:rofl: its a must have, I made a pedal years ago for my AC15 that had A/B switching and Reverb / Tremolo all in one, I was using the A/B to switch between the normal and top boost channels, was a really great tool!

Re: A/B/Y pedal build

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:37 pm
by Bg
Any progress yet?

Re: A/B/Y pedal build

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:19 pm
by jeremyb
Bg wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:37 pmAny progress yet?
Had a day off to do things with the kids, followed up with a curry and beers, and now having a whiskey, probably not a good time to code but have the problem sorted in my mind, kids are at grandparents tomorrow so might do some coding in the day, have the design for the enclosure in my mind, going to make it as small as possible to not steal any real estate from my new small pedalboard thats incoming :mental:

Re: A/B/Y pedal build

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:45 pm
by jeremyb
Changed my logic around to do the held for Y logic I wanted and another short click brings it back to whatever it was set to beforehand, yay!

Next step I'm gonna mock up the enclosure in cardboard and then 3d model it and print it out :-)

Re: A/B/Y pedal build

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:54 pm
by jeremyb
Short video of the prototype in action on the gram: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CjWr_9jpg27/

Re: A/B/Y pedal build

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 2:23 pm
by FuzzMonkey
jeremyb wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:54 pm Short video of the prototype in action on the gram: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CjWr_9jpg27/
You need to hook it up to a signal now and see it performs.

Re: A/B/Y pedal build

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:51 pm
by jeremyb
FuzzMonkey wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 2:23 pm
jeremyb wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:54 pm Short video of the prototype in action on the gram: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CjWr_9jpg27/
You need to hook it up to a signal now and see it performs.
She'll be right! Probably a good idea though, will wire up the jacks and give it a test tomorrow :)

Re: A/B/Y pedal build

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:52 pm
by jeremyb
Some pics of the enclosure I'm working on!