Understood. I meant to imply the Creamback had paltry output compared to the others. It's all academic anyway. I'm reading off a catalogue from the last Namm and Ryan hasn't even seen the Creambacks yet.BG wrote:3 Db is actually quite large...Theoretically if you went up to a 2x12 you would get an extra 3 Db.... or to drive that 97 Db speaker to the same volume as the 100 Db, you would need to hit it with twice the power.slowfingers wrote: As for volume, there's little in it. The V30, Blue, Gold and G12H are all 100db though the Creamback is a paltry 97
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Yeahyeah I know. However I'm going to maintain the illusion of keeping to my budget at least until the tolex glue has dried.*UNIQUE* wrote:In terms of woody chime Greenbacks can be nice....if it were me I'd be going Celestion Gold to get the most from the amps (and they also have good wood/chine elements). They're a great speaker and especially suit the sort of stuff you like (as I understand it). To deal with volume I would look towards modding the JTM rather than make a cabinet inefficient.
They are costly but ya gets whats ya pays for.
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"chine"...my spelling sucks.
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I'd vote the G12H as well, you should be able to run a 30w speaker off a 45w amp without too much hassle, they're a cool sounding speaker!
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Greenbacks do work pretty well in AC30s so could be a good option until you cave and get a Gold.
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Greenbacks are 25 watts. They sound great in the right amps, including AC30's. I still think hold off for a little longer to gt the Gold which will give you the power handling you need plus the tone that goes with anything. Kinda like that little black dress you have.
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V30s are really efficient and present in the midrange, so you'll actually get more perceived volume for less on the amp's volume dial (ie: the opposite of taming!). Personally I wouldn't risk the lower handling of Greenbacks. But because they are such great speakers, I would rather suggest you go 2x12 and have 2 Greenbacks for 50watt handling = Solved!
And don't look past Eminence too. I have a 2x12 with a Cannabis Rex and a Private Jack in it. The 'Red Coat Series' (Brittish flavour) Private Jack in particular might interest you - it's supposedly Eminence's latest Greenback copy with more handling (50watts)..
And don't look past Eminence too. I have a 2x12 with a Cannabis Rex and a Private Jack in it. The 'Red Coat Series' (Brittish flavour) Private Jack in particular might interest you - it's supposedly Eminence's latest Greenback copy with more handling (50watts)..
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Oh yeah...Red Fangs are now 50w rated!
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HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT THAT!!!!!!*UNIQUE* wrote: Kinda like that little black dress you have.
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I'm kinda sorted for 2x12'sMogwaiBoy wrote: I would rather suggest you go 2x12 and have 2 Greenbacks for 50watt handling = Solved!
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