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Wiring for switchable/multi input 4/16 ohm cab

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 11:11 am
by StrummersOfThunder
Hi
Just so I end up grabbing the right parts from Jaycar can someone post a diagram of how to go about wiring a 2x12 with 8ohm speakers cabinet such that I have an input (or switch) for 4ohm or 16 ohm?
I'm guessing I'll need some sort of switching jacks to open one circuit when the other is closed.
Thanks

Re: Wiring for switchable/multi input 4/16 ohm cab

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:18 pm
by GrantB
Yep, a double throw switch (dpdt) and wired like this ignoring the out

https://www.jaycar.co.nz/dpdt-standard- ... hText=Dpdt

Re: Wiring for switchable/multi input 4/16 ohm cab

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:48 pm
by StrummersOfThunder
GrantB wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:18 pm Yep, a double throw switch (dpdt) and wired like this ignoring the out

https://www.jaycar.co.nz/dpdt-standard- ... hText=Dpdt
awesome
i did find that image but the 'in' and 'out' confused me.
Is the out an extension speaker out? or are those the two inputs?

Re: Wiring for switchable/multi input 4/16 ohm cab

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:56 pm
by Jay
You can use either. Just remove one and call the other SPEAKER

Re: Wiring for switchable/multi input 4/16 ohm cab

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:06 pm
by StrummersOfThunder
Jay wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:56 pm You can use either. Just remove one and call the other SPEAKER
what do you mean remove one ?

Re: Wiring for switchable/multi input 4/16 ohm cab

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:12 pm
by StrummersOfThunder
GrantB wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:18 pm Yep, a double throw switch (dpdt) and wired like this ignoring the out

https://www.jaycar.co.nz/dpdt-standard- ... hText=Dpdt
would something like this not be rated for that sort of heavy work? Just seems a slider might be a bit less likely to catch on stuff

https://www.jaycar.co.nz/sub-miniature- ... uEQAvD_BwE

Re: Wiring for switchable/multi input 4/16 ohm cab

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:36 pm
by Jay
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:06 pm
Jay wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:56 pm You can use either. Just remove one and call the other SPEAKER
what do you mean remove one ?
Remove either the IN or OUT from the circuit and relable the remaining one speaker

Re: Wiring for switchable/multi input 4/16 ohm cab

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:36 pm
by Jay
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:12 pm
GrantB wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:18 pm Yep, a double throw switch (dpdt) and wired like this ignoring the out

https://www.jaycar.co.nz/dpdt-standard- ... hText=Dpdt
would something like this not be rated for that sort of heavy work? Just seems a slider might be a bit less likely to catch on stuff

https://www.jaycar.co.nz/sub-miniature- ... uEQAvD_BwE
Won't handle the currents

Re: Wiring for switchable/multi input 4/16 ohm cab

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:39 pm
by StrummersOfThunder
Jay wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:36 pm
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:06 pm
Jay wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:56 pm You can use either. Just remove one and call the other SPEAKER
what do you mean remove one ?
Remove either the IN or OUT from the circuit and relable the remaining one speaker
But I could choose to leave it in and it would be an extension speaker out ?

Re: Wiring for switchable/multi input 4/16 ohm cab

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:39 pm
by StrummersOfThunder
Jay wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:36 pm
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:12 pm
GrantB wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:18 pm Yep, a double throw switch (dpdt) and wired like this ignoring the out

https://www.jaycar.co.nz/dpdt-standard- ... hText=Dpdt
Do you see a less obtrusive switch that Jaycar offers ?


would something like this not be rated for that sort of heavy work? Just seems a slider might be a bit less likely to catch on stuff

https://www.jaycar.co.nz/sub-miniature- ... uEQAvD_BwE
Won't handle the currents

Re: Wiring for switchable/multi input 4/16 ohm cab

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:08 pm
by Jay
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:39 pm
Jay wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:36 pm
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:06 pm

what do you mean remove one ?
Remove either the IN or OUT from the circuit and relable the remaining one speaker
But I could choose to leave it in and it would be an extension speaker out ?
Correct, but you would have to 'recalculate' impedance as the external connection is wired in parallel.
Examples
DPDT set to 16 ohm. Add 16 ohm external speaker. New impedance is 8ohm.
DPDT set to 4 ohm. Add 16 ohm external speaker. New impedance about 3 ohm. (64÷20)

Re: Wiring for switchable/multi input 4/16 ohm cab

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:15 pm
by StrummersOfThunder
Jay wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:08 pm
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:39 pm
Jay wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:36 pm

Remove either the IN or OUT from the circuit and relable the remaining one speaker
But I could choose to leave it in and it would be an extension speaker out ?
Correct, but you would have to 'recalculate' impedance as the external connection is wired in parallel.
Examples
DPDT set to 16 ohm. Add 16 ohm external speaker. New impedance is 8ohm.
DPDT set to 4 ohm. Add 16 ohm external speaker. New impedance about 3 ohm. (64÷20)
Gotcha. I'll leave it out.
Or.... Could you have it to access one speaker at 8ohm?

Re: Wiring for switchable/multi input 4/16 ohm cab

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:27 pm
by Jay
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:15 pm
Jay wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:08 pm
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:39 pm

But I could choose to leave it in and it would be an extension speaker out ?
Correct, but you would have to 'recalculate' impedance as the external connection is wired in parallel.
Examples
DPDT set to 16 ohm. Add 16 ohm external speaker. New impedance is 8ohm.
DPDT set to 4 ohm. Add 16 ohm external speaker. New impedance about 3 ohm. (64÷20)
Gotcha. I'll leave it out.
Or.... Could you have it to access one speaker at 8ohm?
No, for that see thread below. I ll see if I can dig that photo up

https://www.nzguitars.com/forum/viewtop ... ch#p728368

Re: Wiring for switchable/multi input 4/16 ohm cab

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:29 pm
by StrummersOfThunder
This all worked out just great. Thanks