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Re: Awesome LP build

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:34 pm
by Bg
ash wrote:
NZRS-Dave wrote:Why make something new that noone has thought of before, better to copy your idol and be judged on it's closeness to perfection.

Bang on. Adherence to the great LPF book of majesty is easy to portray in a build thread. Other more important aspects of the science of luthiery fall into the realm of black magic for most people and it's really hard to take a picture of superior tap-tone or inter-stage seasoning.

Also, no matter how clever your original thinking, there's always some Andy to say "don't like that one". (in this case it's me and Lawrence ;) )
Its not on LPF and its the guys first build, its a pre slotted fretboard from stewmac. The guy is not the usual TGP wanker, just somebody with 20 years experience of part time woodworking. He uses a router, doesn't insist on purely hand tools... He doesn't know much about guitars, I would put that as a reason as to why he didn't do anything original. He's not a luthier.

Are we even looking at the same thread?

Re: Awesome LP build

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:42 pm
by willow13
jeremyb wrote: I reckon I spent 15-20 hours sanding my Tele :?
and in reality you probably should have done 15 - 20 more.....bloody silly sanding, you think its damn near perfect until that first coat of paint goes on and then bam all the little bumps, hollows and scratches magically jump out at ya :?

Re: Awesome LP build

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:10 pm
by ash
BG wrote: Its not on LPF and its the guys first build, its a pre slotted fretboard from stewmac. The guy is not the usual TGP wanker, just somebody with 20 years experience of part time woodworking. He uses a router, doesn't insist on purely hand tools... He doesn't know much about guitars, I would put that as a reason as to why he didn't do anything original. He's not a luthier.

Are we even looking at the same thread?
LPF, MLP, TGP... same turkey, different gravy ;)

Sorry to pollute your thread with unwarranted griping, BG. He is doing a fine job and superbly documented, so my whinging is really more to do with the culture surrounding these builds than the actual craftsmen. I'll be quiet now :mrgreen:

Re: Awesome LP build

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:17 pm
by NZRS-Dave
BG wrote:
ash wrote:
NZRS-Dave wrote:Why make something new that noone has thought of before, better to copy your idol and be judged on it's closeness to perfection.

Bang on. Adherence to the great LPF book of majesty is easy to portray in a build thread. Other more important aspects of the science of luthiery fall into the realm of black magic for most people and it's really hard to take a picture of superior tap-tone or inter-stage seasoning.

Also, no matter how clever your original thinking, there's always some Andy to say "don't like that one". (in this case it's me and Lawrence ;) )
Its not on LPF and its the guys first build, its a pre slotted fretboard from stewmac. The guy is not the usual TGP wanker, just somebody with 20 years experience of part time woodworking. He uses a router, doesn't insist on purely hand tools... He doesn't know much about guitars, I would put that as a reason as to why he didn't do anything original. He's not a luthier.

Are we even looking at the same thread?

Good point ... I was a little amused than someone said 'I want to see you do one with hand tools only'. I wanted a wet trout to slap him gently around the head with.

Re: Awesome LP build

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:36 pm
by jeremyb
willow13 wrote:
jeremyb wrote: I reckon I spent 15-20 hours sanding my Tele :?
and in reality you probably should have done 15 - 20 more.....bloody silly sanding, you think its damn near perfect until that first coat of paint goes on and then bam all the little bumps, hollows and scratches magically jump out at ya :?
Kinda why I went with stain and oil over an open grain wood, wanted a more organic look to it :)

Re: Awesome LP build

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:48 pm
by werdna
I tried to calculate how long it would take to build the LP (if I could do it successfully), and then I compared how much money I could earn instead.

It would be cheaper for me to make a LP clone than spend the USD5,000.

I love those build diaries. They make me want to start something.

Re: Awesome LP build

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:45 pm
by SammyD
Man this guy is the man! Fuck the haters! (not you Ash, I'd never say anything bad about my beloved guitars creator :P)