Installing a FXLoop
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Installing a FXLoop
Hi all
Sniffing around a amp without a loop
What's involved and rough cost for installing one and any recommendations for welly based amp techs
Cheers
Sniffing around a amp without a loop
What's involved and rough cost for installing one and any recommendations for welly based amp techs
Cheers
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Re: Installing a FXLoop
I had Ryan to add a passive loop to my 2203KK which didn't cost much (less than $100).
If you want an active loop (ie a proper one) it'll probably cost a bit. People say good things about the Metro loop kit:
https://store.metropoulos.net/products/ ... x-loop-kit
FX loop is overrated though, dry/wet system is the way to go haha. Do you still have your DV Mark? That'll work great as a wet amp.
If you want an active loop (ie a proper one) it'll probably cost a bit. People say good things about the Metro loop kit:
https://store.metropoulos.net/products/ ... x-loop-kit
FX loop is overrated though, dry/wet system is the way to go haha. Do you still have your DV Mark? That'll work great as a wet amp.
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Re: Installing a FXLoop
I do please explain more (rubbing chin)godgrinder wrote:I had Ryan to add a passive loop to my 2203KK which didn't cost much (less than $100).
If you want an active loop (ie a proper one) it'll probably cost a bit. People say good things about the Metro loop kit:
https://store.metropoulos.net/products/ ... x-loop-kit
FX loop is overrated though, dry/wet system is the way to go haha. Do you still have your DV Mark? That'll work great as a wet amp.
Lol looking at a 2203KK aswell
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Re: Installing a FXLoop
Get an ABY box to split the signal, run a JCM800 profile and the FX you want on the DVM, set FX to 100% wet, leave the actual amp dry.
I added the passive loop on my 2203KK so I can use just the power section when I want to. For running effects the passive loop is probably a bit meh, but the money involved in adding an active loop isn't quite worth it when you can run a D/W system.
I added the passive loop on my 2203KK so I can use just the power section when I want to. For running effects the passive loop is probably a bit meh, but the money involved in adding an active loop isn't quite worth it when you can run a D/W system.
Amps:
Soldano SLO100 x2 | Wizard MC1 & MC2 | Diezel Herbert
Fryette Pittbull CL | Marshall 2203KK | Krank Rev 50 | Mesa Mark 2A
Rack stuff:
VHT/Fryette GP3, GP/DI & 2/90/2 | Peters FSM/Chimera
Verellen Meatsmoke | Synergy SYN1 | Mesa Studio
Soldano SLO100 x2 | Wizard MC1 & MC2 | Diezel Herbert
Fryette Pittbull CL | Marshall 2203KK | Krank Rev 50 | Mesa Mark 2A
Rack stuff:
VHT/Fryette GP3, GP/DI & 2/90/2 | Peters FSM/Chimera
Verellen Meatsmoke | Synergy SYN1 | Mesa Studio
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Re: Installing a FXLoop
I had a metro loop in the Blankenship, very good.
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Re: Installing a FXLoop
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Re: Installing a FXLoop
Loops are overrated, just chuck your effects in front of the amp
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Re: Installing a FXLoop
yep, toughen up princess...
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Re: Installing a FXLoop
So called Zero loss FX loop that was popularized on the metroamp boards is not a state secret these days. Schematics diagrams are all over the internet. I think Ceriatone do one too and there are others. Flick Ceriatone an email and they will likely make you a FX circuit any tech can install
p.s. Dude asked about FX loops, not wet dry rigs. Maybe wet, dry, wet? .
p.s. Dude asked about FX loops, not wet dry rigs. Maybe wet, dry, wet? .
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Re: Installing a FXLoop
Aquila Rossa wrote: p.s. Dude asked about FX loops, not wet dry rigs. Maybe wet, dry, wet? .
Olderama wrote: I do please explain more (rubbing chin)
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Re: Installing a FXLoop
But going back to FX loops, years ago I ordered a 18W TMB EF86 head from Ceriatone and I asked them to add an FX loop, which they did. They actually added two, one for each channel, but with a single TSR input/output jack for each. Spose it would have been cool if you wanted different FX for each channel. I never got round to acquiring the Y cables to actually use them.
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Re: Installing a FXLoop
Probably will end up costing more than US$85 to have someone making that from scratch than buying a pre-made PCB.Aquila Rossa wrote:Flick Ceriatone an email and they will likely make you a FX circuit any tech can install
Amps:
Soldano SLO100 x2 | Wizard MC1 & MC2 | Diezel Herbert
Fryette Pittbull CL | Marshall 2203KK | Krank Rev 50 | Mesa Mark 2A
Rack stuff:
VHT/Fryette GP3, GP/DI & 2/90/2 | Peters FSM/Chimera
Verellen Meatsmoke | Synergy SYN1 | Mesa Studio
Soldano SLO100 x2 | Wizard MC1 & MC2 | Diezel Herbert
Fryette Pittbull CL | Marshall 2203KK | Krank Rev 50 | Mesa Mark 2A
Rack stuff:
VHT/Fryette GP3, GP/DI & 2/90/2 | Peters FSM/Chimera
Verellen Meatsmoke | Synergy SYN1 | Mesa Studio
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Re: Installing a FXLoop
But anyway, considering how often you flip your stuff I definitely don't recommend sinking any cash in modding it, haha.
Amps:
Soldano SLO100 x2 | Wizard MC1 & MC2 | Diezel Herbert
Fryette Pittbull CL | Marshall 2203KK | Krank Rev 50 | Mesa Mark 2A
Rack stuff:
VHT/Fryette GP3, GP/DI & 2/90/2 | Peters FSM/Chimera
Verellen Meatsmoke | Synergy SYN1 | Mesa Studio
Soldano SLO100 x2 | Wizard MC1 & MC2 | Diezel Herbert
Fryette Pittbull CL | Marshall 2203KK | Krank Rev 50 | Mesa Mark 2A
Rack stuff:
VHT/Fryette GP3, GP/DI & 2/90/2 | Peters FSM/Chimera
Verellen Meatsmoke | Synergy SYN1 | Mesa Studio
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Re: Installing a FXLoop
yeah, I agree. Not worth doing unless you really like the amp and will keep it. That said, installing a zero loss loop in an amp with no loop may give better results than many amps with loops already in them.godgrinder wrote:But anyway, considering how often you flip your stuff I definitely don't recommend sinking any cash in modding it, haha.
Another thing to consider is that many well known guitar tones from Jimmy Page and Brian May etc used delay, but they had no loop. They ran the Echoplex unit into an overdriven amp. It gives a different effect than running in the loop. Reverb came from the room or from the mixing desk. The sound of an amp's spring reverb tank being distorted by the power amp crunching up can be nice, but I do not like room reverb doing that. For more complex reverbs, it's better to have clean power amp, or add it post
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