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HD500X

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:55 pm
by werdna
Got one of TM.

What to set it up so that it's a midi controller to control my amp and an effects processor feeding into my amp.

Anyone out there done such a thing please?

Re: HD500X

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:34 pm
by jeremyb
I have done the latter, disabling the amp and speaker sims to use it purely for effects, found it sucked a bit much toan tho'... didn't have a midi controllable amp but...


Re: HD500X

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:52 pm
by werdna
Oh dear, toan sucking.

All I really wanted it for is delay and reverb. Maybe a bit of chorus or flange now and then.

Is there a digital floor module that doesn't toan suck as much?

Re: HD500X

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:18 pm
by jeremyb
werdna wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:52 pm Oh dear, toan sucking.

All I really wanted it for is delay and reverb. Maybe a bit of chorus or flange now and then.

Is there a digital floor module that doesn't toan suck as much?
I'd suggest you try it first, play around with the input impedance settings, make sure your bypassed toan isn't changed too much when the effects are off, otherwise something like an M9 or M13 would do the trick, bit old now but so is the HD :)

Re: HD500X

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:18 pm
by olegmcnoleg
jeremyb wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:18 pm
werdna wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:52 pm Oh dear, toan sucking.

All I really wanted it for is delay and reverb. Maybe a bit of chorus or flange now and then.

Is there a digital floor module that doesn't toan suck as much?
I'd suggest you try it first, play around with the input impedance settings, make sure your bypassed toan isn't changed too much when the effects are off, otherwise something like an M9 or M13 would do the trick, bit old now but so is the HD :)
HelixFX might work for you. The effects are better and it is not trying to offer you amps & cabs or any other such malarky
There's one on TM ATM.

Re: HD500X

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:18 pm
by Slowy
olegmcnoleg wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:18 pm
jeremyb wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:18 pm
werdna wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:52 pm Oh dear, toan sucking.

All I really wanted it for is delay and reverb. Maybe a bit of chorus or flange now and then.

Is there a digital floor module that doesn't toan suck as much?
I'd suggest you try it first, play around with the input impedance settings, make sure your bypassed toan isn't changed too much when the effects are off, otherwise something like an M9 or M13 would do the trick, bit old now but so is the HD :)
HelixFX might work for you. The effects are better and it is not trying to offer you amps & cabs or any other such malarky
There's one on TM ATM.
That shriek and thump I just heard........ did someone fall down a rabbit hole?

Re: HD500X

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:45 pm
by olegmcnoleg
werdna wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:52 pm Oh dear, toan sucking.

All I really wanted it for is delay and reverb. Maybe a bit of chorus or flange now and then.

Is there a digital floor module that doesn't toan suck as much?
Wait, before you abandon it, are you sure you have the right mode selected? The (global) mode setting changes the tone a lot, and you would need to use the live/performance setting. (Sorry can't remember the Line6 jargon terms any more.) Do check the manual carefully.

Re: HD500X

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:52 pm
by Bg
IIRC there are a couple of bypass modes apart from anything else. Never had an issue with mine, but I never used it just for fx.

Re: HD500X

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:28 pm
by handsoffmatt
Years ago, before I worked for BOSS, I was looking to use an HD500X for effects only (no amp modelling) but found it to have an ENORMOUS amount of tone suck and noise issues when used in this manner. (as a standalone modeller/FX unit, it was great!)

I instead ended up with a BOSS GT100, which worked fantastically and was my gigging rig for some years.

Re: HD500X

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:51 pm
by Conway
The company name says it all - Line Sucks.

Re: HD500X

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:26 pm
by mop
handsoffmatt wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:28 pm Years ago, before I worked for BOSS, I was looking to use an HD500X for effects only (no amp modelling) but found it to have an ENORMOUS amount of tone suck and noise issues when used in this manner. (as a standalone modeller/FX unit, it was great!)

I instead ended up with a BOSS GT100, which worked fantastically and was my gigging rig for some years.
I also found this to be the case when I used mine with an amp, significant tone suck. I didn’t have noise issues but normally had a gate engaged so maybe that’s why. For whatever reason the M series of effects units from the same era didn’t seem to suffer from the same issue.

As a stand-alone unit it’s ok, I’m using mine this way until I have fm3 or quad cortex $$

Re: HD500X

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:28 pm
by mop
Second hand gt100 units pop up pretty cheap, if there are any about you could probably sell the HD and have a gt100 for similar money

Re: HD500X

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:29 pm
by Optical
Yeah that's odd, I still use a M13 which is the same era of hardware and there's no tone suck. I still rate that thing too, I dont know of any other pedal that can swap a variety of fx order around on the fly in the same way it can.
I have no idea if it has midi out/control functions though