Fender Tonemaster Princeton
Moderators: Slowy, Capt. Black
- jeremyb
- Chorus of Organs
- Posts: 41701
- meble-kuchenne.warszawa.pl
- Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:03 am
- Has liked: 7907 times
- Been liked: 4257 times
Fender Tonemaster Princeton
no doubt the price will be more than building a tube one yourself but...
Slowy wrote: That's the problem; everything rewarding is just such hard work. Regret takes much less effort.
- GrantB
- ADMIN
- Posts: 15993
- Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2003 9:04 am
- Location: Where I need to be
- Has liked: 1388 times
- Been liked: 2132 times
Re: Fender Tonemaster Princeton
If it weas trem, why did the Fender footswitch say "Vib"!
Great idea. Good for gigs. It's its own thing, rather than a perfect repro of a PR.
That reverb doesn't sound like the original...and the overdrive sound is, nah.
Great idea. Good for gigs. It's its own thing, rather than a perfect repro of a PR.
That reverb doesn't sound like the original...and the overdrive sound is, nah.
"Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible god and destroys a visible nature. Unaware that this nature he's destroying is this god he's worshipping." - Hubert Reeves
- robthemac
- Vintage Post Junkie
- Posts: 8822
- Joined: Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:47 pm
- Has liked: 1124 times
- Been liked: 1453 times
Re: Fender Tonemaster Princeton
Such a shame. The overdriven sound of a Princeton can be wonderful. Jay's with a 12" speaker is just glorious.
- codedog
- Vintage Post Junkie
- Posts: 6818
- Joined: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:44 pm
- Location: Christchurch
- Has liked: 3527 times
- Been liked: 1098 times
Re: Fender Tonemaster Princeton
How loud does it get before it's overdriven?
- robthemac
- Vintage Post Junkie
- Posts: 8822
- Joined: Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:47 pm
- Has liked: 1124 times
- Been liked: 1453 times
Re: Fender Tonemaster Princeton
Louder than I'd play in my bedroom. But it wouldn't be giggable if you want headroom. Arguably the worst of both worlds, but still on of my favourite amps I've ever played.
To be fair, I play very low-gain. What I'd call overdrive you might call compression.
- codedog
- Vintage Post Junkie
- Posts: 6818
- Joined: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:44 pm
- Location: Christchurch
- Has liked: 3527 times
- Been liked: 1098 times
Re: Fender Tonemaster Princeton
For a Princeton I imagine I would only consider edge of breakup at the highest.robthemac wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:16 pmLouder than I'd play in my bedroom. But it wouldn't be giggable if you want headroom. Arguably the worst of both worlds, but still on of my favourite amps I've ever played.
To be fair, I play very low-gain. What I'd call overdrive you might call compression.
- jeremyb
- Chorus of Organs
- Posts: 41701
- Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:03 am
- Has liked: 7907 times
- Been liked: 4257 times
Re: Fender Tonemaster Princeton
A Princeton reverb would be my perfect amp I reckon, 10" jensen ceramic... yummo.
Slowy wrote: That's the problem; everything rewarding is just such hard work. Regret takes much less effort.
- robthemac
- Vintage Post Junkie
- Posts: 8822
- Joined: Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:47 pm
- Has liked: 1124 times
- Been liked: 1453 times
- jeremyb
- Chorus of Organs
- Posts: 41701
- Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:03 am
- Has liked: 7907 times
- Been liked: 4257 times
Re: Fender Tonemaster Princeton
It’s more AC-10 than you would think
Slowy wrote: That's the problem; everything rewarding is just such hard work. Regret takes much less effort.
-
- Squier
- Posts: 358
- Joined: Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:59 pm
- Has liked: 67 times
- Been liked: 71 times
Re: Fender Tonemaster Princeton
I'm not sure why they went with the Princeton Reverb next when they already do a lightweight Tone Master Deluxe Reverb with power scaling down to 0.5 watts. To me they already have the portable Blackface combo covered.
Yes, the Princeton definitely has a lot of fans, but they could have given the Tone Master treatment to the Tweed Deluxe first!
Yes, the Princeton definitely has a lot of fans, but they could have given the Tone Master treatment to the Tweed Deluxe first!
- robthemac
- Vintage Post Junkie
- Posts: 8822
- Joined: Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:47 pm
- Has liked: 1124 times
- Been liked: 1453 times
Re: Fender Tonemaster Princeton
Couldn't agree more. Or they could put a tweed voice in any of the ToneMaster series for next to no cost.Wairarapajack wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:53 pm I'm not sure why they went with the Princeton Reverb next when they already do a lightweight Tone Master Deluxe Reverb with power scaling down to 0.5 watts. To me they already have the portable Blackface combo covered.
Yes, the Princeton definitely has a lot of fans, but they could have given the Tone Master treatment to the Tweed Deluxe first!
- StrummersOfThunder
- Vintage Post Junkie
- Posts: 7390
- Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:23 pm
- Has liked: 862 times
- Been liked: 1396 times
Re: Fender Tonemaster Princeton
I really dont think they sound good at all overdriven. Great clean tone , perhaps slightly breaking up. .. but the overdrive of a PR always virges on fizzy to me.
- KNNZ
- Vintage Post Junkie
- Posts: 2981
- Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:03 pm
- Location: Orewa
- Has liked: 1779 times
- Been liked: 667 times
Re: Fender Tonemaster Princeton
This ^. I had a Princeton Reverb before and 100% agree with StrummersStrummersOfThunder wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:35 pmI really dont think they sound good at all overdriven. Great clean tone , perhaps slightly breaking up. .. but the overdrive of a PR always virges on fizzy to me.
- bender
- Darth Fader
- Posts: 11878
- Joined: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:46 pm
- Location: Dorkland
- Has liked: 418 times
- Been liked: 1022 times
Re: Fender Tonemaster Princeton
Part of the appeal of a tonemaster is that they can make the amp lightweight- a twin I can understand, but a Princeton? Seems pointless to me.
- GrantB
- ADMIN
- Posts: 15993
- Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2003 9:04 am
- Location: Where I need to be
- Has liked: 1388 times
- Been liked: 2132 times
Re: Fender Tonemaster Princeton
That fizziness can be removed with a subtle tweak to a couple of resistor values (Paul mod?). I’ll record mine breaking up.StrummersOfThunder wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:35 pmI really dont think they sound good at all overdriven. Great clean tone , perhaps slightly breaking up. .. but the overdrive of a PR always virges on fizzy to me.
I’m also using a night light as a “master vol”.
"Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible god and destroys a visible nature. Unaware that this nature he's destroying is this god he's worshipping." - Hubert Reeves