And what are the Rat clones out there? Particularly ones available in NZ. I don't mind if they're a bit corksniffy.
Re: Rat Alternatives
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:27 pm
by Mattallica
I've thought about one of these aswell. Peper's Pedals did a "RAD" rat clone not too long ago. Maybe you could find out if they're still available
Re: Rat Alternatives
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:31 pm
by godgrinder
Mooer Black Secret / ENO TC-13
Re: Rat Alternatives
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:44 pm
by Kris
Mattallica wrote:I've thought about one of these aswell. Peper's Pedals did a "RAD" rat clone not too long ago. Maybe you could find out if they're still available
i have one,easily available.Mine has the ruetz mod plus switchable clipping.
Re: Rat Alternatives
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:46 pm
by Kris
tony needs to chime in here,being something of a rat man....
Re: Rat Alternatives
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:47 pm
by willow13
For the style of music RATT are pretty much as good as it get. Yes there are alternatives but meh
Re: Rat Alternatives
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:10 pm
by Pastasauce
Kris wrote:tony needs to chime in here,being something of a rat man....
I'd be keen to hear his thoughts.
A swift googling tells me the JHS All American is one option.
Re: Rat Alternatives
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:12 pm
by Mattallica
i have one,easily available.Mine has the ruetz mod plus switchable clipping.
What's a ruetz mod?
Re: Rat Alternatives
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:28 pm
by Aquila Rossa
Not strictly a Rat because it is a hybrid design that is part Tone Bender and part Rat, but sounds good:
Re: Rat Alternatives
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:29 pm
by Eruera
The Mooer is great, it's very much a screw-top though.
Re: Rat Alternatives
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:24 pm
by jeremyb
I didn't like the eno with my ac15c1, sounded way better with a muff style fuzz
Re: Rat Alternatives
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:29 pm
by TmcB
I have been ratted out HOHO!
So with Voxen, run it with gain below 12 and as much vol as you dare - best is to try and set the gain low enough that the bass response is juuuust kicking in and loads of vol to pummel the preamp - don't bother using it for brootz.
Avoid a new bog standard Rat 2, You Dirty Rat or Turbo are better quality and mods are easy.
The ENO Rat was placed side by side with an '80s Rat 2 and there is no difference (good for budget)
Big Box RI Rat is worth a punt if you see one - if it has an LM308 on the left side of the board, you're a winner!
Mudhoney's are lightly tweaked rats with a low gain option (they labelled it boost but it's actually the opposite) and I really like what they did.
Out of my Silverpistol range, the Bronson with the diodes in hard clipping is in the ballpark but much more refined - I'm looking to add my Rat version to the line up soon.
TL;DR
Cheap = ENO Rat
Legit = tweaked You Dirty Rat (swap out diodes, chip, and a cap)
Boutique = Mudhoney
Plug for Silverpistol = Bronson
Re: Rat Alternatives
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:48 pm
by TmcB
Mattallica wrote:
i have one,easily available.Mine has the ruetz mod plus switchable clipping.
What's a ruetz mod?
It's where you clip off a leg of the 47Ω resistor - gives you more bass and lower gain - definitely worthwhile
Re: Rat Alternatives
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:29 pm
by Single coil
There is a KLD one with a switch on it for $50 and free post from the mpc website.
I had the ts808 copy when they sold them years ago - same enclosure, different colour, sturdiest pedal I've ever come across.
Re: Rat Alternatives
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:15 pm
by godgrinder
Eruera wrote:The Mooer is great, it's very much a screw-top though.
