Finding the Right Fuzz Pedal
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Mad logic..... More, "Shit! Nobody else is bidding on this and now Jb thinks it's crap. Oops, I just won it."jeremyb wrote:Thats some mad logic right there will be interesting to hear what you think, I found it really thin and uninspiring, I'm a big muff fan and it really didn't measure upSlowy wrote: Asked Jb about the Iron Bell. He wasn't very complimentary but then I thought that might be a solid recommendation (different ears etc). Still waiting to find out.
Actually, you compared it to a Musket and a Musket is way too much for what I want.
So...........
Just spent half an hour with it. Very much what I was looking for. I think I like it more than the One Control but I'll have to put both of them on the board to be sure. Plenty of time.
Thanks for your advice Jeremy; solid as usual.
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I just looked at the Dark side; never seen it before. It's amazing, terrifying and way out of my league.olegmcnoleg wrote:I think the best answer to this thread may well be the Keeley Dark Side, but that is probably overkill as it will duplicate other pedals you have. Still, it does look good to me. Instant DG in a box.
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No, it's not. It is awesome and it has great tone. And I want to try oneSlowy wrote:I just looked at the Dark side; never seen it before. It's amazing, terrifying and way out of my league.olegmcnoleg wrote:I think the best answer to this thread may well be the Keeley Dark Side, but that is probably overkill as it will duplicate other pedals you have. Still, it does look good to me. Instant DG in a box.
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Jb is always solid.
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I normally have my Diamond Comp on first in the chain,mrmofo wrote:+1 on the Bush FX dood.
I asked him to make me a comp and OD in one pedal. both together into a dirty amp is good.
using fuzz with other pedals creates a strange relationship, in my experience the fuzz must go first in the chain, depends on what comes after it etc. it`s like having a drama queen girlfriend.
Do you think a Geemanium ToneBender would be effected by that?
I guess I’ll just have to swap things around when I get it to see what works.
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Re: Finding the Right Fuzz Pedal
the Bush made COMP/OD has the comp first.Reg18 wrote:
I normally have my Diamond Comp on first in the chain,
Do you think a Geemanium ToneBender would be effected by that?
I guess I’ll just have to swap things around when I get it to see what works.
based on my experience which was limited to low grade cheapish fuzz units. newer more expensive fuzz box`s may have fixed the loading issue
There are still some that think the neck PU is moved to accommodate the extra frets which only proves they cannot detect the difference in length of each.
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I had one, it was awesome, the muff part is a little harsh on it's own but it's all tuned to work together and theres some epic gilmour tones available!olegmcnoleg wrote:No, it's not. It is awesome and it has great tone. And I want to try oneSlowy wrote:I just looked at the Dark side; never seen it before. It's amazing, terrifying and way out of my league.olegmcnoleg wrote:I think the best answer to this thread may well be the Keeley Dark Side, but that is probably overkill as it will duplicate other pedals you have. Still, it does look good to me. Instant DG in a box.
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Dammit Bruce really makes me want to try one again now had a very different rig back then and maybe that was part of the issue... that said I'm really REALLY happy with the carcosa, does all the splatty stuff I love, just need another muff for those tones, kinda always wanted a big box one and maybe mod it a bitSlowy wrote:Mad logic..... More, "Shit! Nobody else is bidding on this and now Jb thinks it's crap. Oops, I just won it."jeremyb wrote:Thats some mad logic right there will be interesting to hear what you think, I found it really thin and uninspiring, I'm a big muff fan and it really didn't measure upSlowy wrote: Asked Jb about the Iron Bell. He wasn't very complimentary but then I thought that might be a solid recommendation (different ears etc). Still waiting to find out.
Actually, you compared it to a Musket and a Musket is way too much for what I want.
So...........
Just spent half an hour with it. Very much what I was looking for. I think I like it more than the One Control but I'll have to put both of them on the board to be sure. Plenty of time.
Thanks for your advice Jeremy; solid as usual.
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You probably still won't like it. I'm going for as smooth as possible; a completely splat free sound. Not going to get it, but that's the goal.jeremyb wrote:
Dammit Bruce really makes me want to try one again now had a very different rig back then and maybe that was part of the issue... that said I'm really REALLY happy with the carcosa, does all the splatty stuff I love, just need another muff for those tones, kinda always wanted a big box one and maybe mod it a bit
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Smooth splat free... hmm... I really think you should give that cheapie Mooer of Keon's a go. It has all those qualities you have repeated here several times. It won't have the cool looks or price tag of the big box branded stuff, but it's has that smooth splat free singing violin quality.Slowy wrote:You probably still won't like it. I'm going for as smooth as possible; a completely splat free sound. Not going to get it, but that's the goal.jeremyb wrote:
Dammit Bruce really makes me want to try one again now had a very different rig back then and maybe that was part of the issue... that said I'm really REALLY happy with the carcosa, does all the splatty stuff I love, just need another muff for those tones, kinda always wanted a big box one and maybe mod it a bit
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A long, but good article on the history of the ToneBender for those interested.
https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/ ... ender-fuzz
https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/ ... ender-fuzz
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That's a great article - penned by ex-pat NZer Christian Livingstone (of the Datsuns and Magnetic Effects).Reg18 wrote:A long, but good article on the history of the ToneBebder for those interested.
https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/ ... ender-fuzz
Pleased to see him give a plug for Super Electric at the end - told you they were good!
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Re: Finding the Right Fuzz Pedal
Have just received my Tonebender/Bluesbreaker clone and it’s awesome!
Having never owned a Tonebender before I’m
Still trying to figure out placement in my chain.
I know everyone says first but strangely I preferred it after my Diamond compressor, is that normal?
And as I usually like to have a low gain OD on most of the time and then kick on the fuzz for a lead boost/big rhythm tone I’m finding the mids/low end drops out, any suggestions on that? If I put an OD after the TB it retains some of the mids but becomes very dark and if I put an OD before it is a lot clearer but the mids drop out.
Any suggestions?
Having never owned a Tonebender before I’m
Still trying to figure out placement in my chain.
I know everyone says first but strangely I preferred it after my Diamond compressor, is that normal?
And as I usually like to have a low gain OD on most of the time and then kick on the fuzz for a lead boost/big rhythm tone I’m finding the mids/low end drops out, any suggestions on that? If I put an OD after the TB it retains some of the mids but becomes very dark and if I put an OD before it is a lot clearer but the mids drop out.
Any suggestions?