Theory on killing single coil hum

[Polar Bear]

Out of interest, when you use the Reverend, it's still humming right? How do noiseless singles fix this issue? Is it possible to get some custom wound J(c)M pickups with a dummy coil or similar to alleviate the hum issue? The whole thing to me sounds like a dirty power issue, but that doesn't help that much.

[jeremyb]

Hey, I know this other forum that has a whole section devoted to both kinds of music. Would that be a good idea for this forum?

Only if theres a satan worshippers sub-forum too so theres a balance, I know some of teh br00tz guys would relate more to that

[rocklander]

Still haven't forgiven those fuckers for Van Morrison. Second only to Australia day.

he's not irish. he's a prod from britain.

[slash-ed]

C'mon guys, act your age and stop being asses.

Sooty and myself and many others on the forum play mostly in church. We are proud of it, and I for one am getting a little sick of the dotted eighth jokes and general mockery of us because we play in church.

The reality is that what we do is not a joke - we work extremely hard to do what we do and it takes a high level of skill to pull it off. Many of the guitarists on this forum would not be up to it.
We usually have short rehearsals (sometime none) we're playing to click, often to a track. We live with a focus that the music is not about us, and therefore we develop a real sensitivity in our playing.
We are always trying to get young dudes involved and interested in music, so we are also constantly mentoring other guitarists.

I don't think I've ever said a mocking word about guitarists who play in covers or original bands, and I for one would like to see y'all walk a mile in the worship guitarist's shoes before you write us off as slightly mental, old fashioned, obsolete Edge cloners.

In fact, we worship guitarists are original, unique players, highly skilled and extremely passionate.

[Capt. Black]

This is a warning to all sides of the "argument".

Get over yourselves. Grow thicker skins and stop being arseholes to each other.

P.s how the fuck anyone who professes total rejection of christianity and organised religion can turn around and justify satan worship and fail to see the irony consistently amuses me. Teh brootz indeed. Pfft.

The reality is that what we do is not a joke - we work extremely hard to do what we do and it takes a high level of skill to pull it off. Many of the guitarists on this forum would not be up to it.
We usually have short rehearsals (sometime none) we're playing to click, often to a track. We live with a focus that the music is not about us, and therefore we develop a real sensitivity in our playing.
We are always trying to get young dudes involved and interested in music, so we are also constantly mentoring other guitarists.

BB, I sympathise with your sentiment overall. I think your comment above sums up nicely what is good and what is not necessarily so good, that some of us may find a bit amusing about worship players. Think about it.

[Danger Mouse]

Only if theres a satan worshippers sub-forum too so theres a balance, I know some of teh br00tz guys would relate more to that

You know, I've never met a teh br00tz guy that was in any way interested in Satanism, apart from the cliche'd over-use of Satanic symbolism and lyrics for image purposes (even then few and far between). Met bucket-loads of Athiests and Agnostics, a few Buddists and even the odd Christian into that scene though.

[AmpShop]

Only if theres a satan worshippers sub-forum too so theres a balance, I know some of teh br00tz guys would relate more to that

You know, I've never met a teh br00tz guy that was in any way interested in Satanism, apart from the cliche'd over-use of Satanic symbolism and lyrics for image purposes (even then few and far between). Met bucket-loads of Athiests and Agnostics, a few Buddists and even the odd Christian into that scene though.

+ 1

[Capt. Black]

Yeah I use god-like sweeping generalizations a lot. But you get my drift.

[slash-ed]

Only if theres a satan worshippers sub-forum too so theres a balance, I know some of teh br00tz guys would relate more to that

You know, I've never met a teh br00tz guy that was in any way interested in Satanism, apart from the cliche'd over-use of Satanic symbolism and lyrics for image purposes (even then few and far between). Met bucket-loads of Athiests and Agnostics, a few Buddists and even the odd Christian into that scene though.

+1

The heaviest musicians I've known (not the poser types) have often been the nicest guys in real life.

[mr_sooty]

Out of interest, when you use the Reverend, it's still humming right? How do noiseless singles fix this issue? Is it possible to get some custom wound J(c)M pickups with a dummy coil or similar to alleviate the hum issue? The whole thing to me sounds like a dirty power issue, but that doesn't help that much.

Well the humbuckers in the Reverend, like most humbuckers, are still prone to picking up small amounts of noise in certain situations, but to a much lesser degree. So while I occasionally still get some noise with the Reverend in the most extreme situations, it's far less problematic than with single coils. I find the Dimarzio's to be even quieter than standard humbuckers. I noticed this when I had an HSS Deluxe Strat too, the SCn's were quiter than the Humbucker in the bridge. The point is, different picups effect the level of hum being caused in my situation, and the noise also goes away when you turn the volume down on the guitar.

Hey, I know this other forum that has a whole section devoted to both kinds of music. Would that be a good idea for this forum?

Well the problem is that whatever we post about becomes a chance to mock our beliefs - this thread was supposed to be about single coil hum, and even if there was a worship sub-forum I wouldn't have posted it there because it was a technical question. A couple of sensible questions lead me to put it into context with my particular situation, which lead to more of the usual hilarious religion bashing from the intelligent and insightful contributors to this forum. Sure you could start a Worship sub-forum, but I imagine that'd just invite more of the same wouldn't it? I could just stay on the Christian guitarist forum and not come here, but not many people on those forums know much about the technical side of gear, and I mistakenly thought people here would actually be interested in the ideas in my original post and might have some interesting insights into it, given that there's quite a few people here with much more technical knowledge than me. It really sucks how I can't post anything here without it degenerating into this kind of crap.

[Capt. Black]

Yes Ed. I've found the same thing. Funnily enough some of the softest rock christians have been really lovely guys in real life too.

Split hairs all you like guys. The fact remains, don't be arseholes to each other or I'll just get all old testament on you.

[calling card]

Sail on my little buzzy strat bee...

[jeremyb]

P.s how the fuck anyone who professes total rejection of christianity and organised religion can turn around and justify satan worship and fail to see the irony consistently amuses me. Teh brootz indeed. Pfft.

You talking bout me? if so your accusation is serious accusation and I invite you to withdraw it!

[GrantB]

Take the religion out of it - everyone. Or I'll be screwing with your posts and you won't like it.

I have also played at venues where the power was crap and the lights buzzy...it astounds me that it would be so. Ya know, high budget design work, built for purpose (supposedly) – it should take into account the musicians about to use the facility. We played at the Waikato Uni a year or so ago in the performing arts building...the room we were in had only one power outlet on the side we used. Incredible.

Back to single coil theory - what about Lace Sensors? Aren't they mean to be quiet under lights etc?

[Danger Mouse]

It really sucks how I can't post anything here without it degenerating into this kind of crap.

Didn't happen to catch The Politically Incorrect Guide to Grown-ups on the weekend did you? It was about beliefs and made the interesting point that while the human race has, as a generalisation, an enourmous need to believe in something (even if it's not believing in anything, like myself) it is only matched by the same level of desire to rubbish and denigrate what other people believe in, if it doesn't fit with your belief system. Made sense to me.