Stuff you just can't nail..

Its all in the fingers, or is it?

Moderators: Slowy, Capt. Black

User avatar
Jenesis
Vintage Post Junkie
Vintage Post Junkie
Posts: 7882
meble-kuchenne.warszawa.pl
Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:24 am
Location: Masterton
Been liked: 1 time

Post by Jenesis »

Those guitars appear to have an extra string.

User avatar
Gelato
Vintage Post Junkie
Vintage Post Junkie
Posts: 1802
Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:50 pm
Location: Napier, NZ

Post by Gelato »

3 Universe's? :shock: I thought you only had 2!
My web site
My band's site

NZRS-Dave wrote:I can help with that cos I read something somewhere about it.

slash-ed
Resident Gear Whore
Posts: 10046
Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:26 pm
Has liked: 97 times
Been liked: 424 times

Post by slash-ed »

Sweeeeeeeeeet. :shock:

(Guitars, not the baby. Baby is cute. :P)
Just a small town girl living in a lonely world

User avatar
Tsuken
In the Name of Vai
Posts: 2328
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:54 pm
Location: Sydney, Australia

Post by Tsuken »

Capt. Black wrote:
*UNIQUE* wrote:Stuff you just can't nail? You mean like the hot little thing next door?
Known to her closest friends as the Cusack Screamer?
You sir, are a very bad man.

I like it ;)
My twitting tweets of twitterness

@ash lol/RT "@ChelseaVPeretti Had fun in the Cinema Tent tonight w @adultswim @robcorddry #bonnaroo #fonz #hottubtimemachineintonationjokes #childrenshospital #mud #pee" //by @Jenesis

Here be bloggins

User avatar
Tsuken
In the Name of Vai
Posts: 2328
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:54 pm
Location: Sydney, Australia

Post by Tsuken »

Gelato wrote:3 Universe's? :shock: I thought you only had 2!
me too :shock:
My twitting tweets of twitterness

@ash lol/RT "@ChelseaVPeretti Had fun in the Cinema Tent tonight w @adultswim @robcorddry #bonnaroo #fonz #hottubtimemachineintonationjokes #childrenshospital #mud #pee" //by @Jenesis

Here be bloggins

User avatar
Tsuken
In the Name of Vai
Posts: 2328
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:54 pm
Location: Sydney, Australia

Post by Tsuken »

bc_rich_ wrote:shredders... they dont play slow??
Actually, they probably play slower than anyone else, when practising 8)
My twitting tweets of twitterness

@ash lol/RT "@ChelseaVPeretti Had fun in the Cinema Tent tonight w @adultswim @robcorddry #bonnaroo #fonz #hottubtimemachineintonationjokes #childrenshospital #mud #pee" //by @Jenesis

Here be bloggins

User avatar
Tsuken
In the Name of Vai
Posts: 2328
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:54 pm
Location: Sydney, Australia

Post by Tsuken »

dnasurfer wrote:As for the divine thing, my 7 month baby girl ....River.
She's gorgeous :D
My twitting tweets of twitterness

@ash lol/RT "@ChelseaVPeretti Had fun in the Cinema Tent tonight w @adultswim @robcorddry #bonnaroo #fonz #hottubtimemachineintonationjokes #childrenshospital #mud #pee" //by @Jenesis

Here be bloggins

User avatar
Capt. Black
Vintage Post Junkie
Vintage Post Junkie
Posts: 6559
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:39 am
Location: Valles Marineris
Has liked: 171 times
Been liked: 255 times

Post by Capt. Black »

She is way gorgeous.

I do worry about the guitars' effect on her aesthetic sense in later life. ;) :D

User avatar
Kloppsta
Vintage Post Junkie
Vintage Post Junkie
Posts: 2489
Joined: Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:09 pm
Location: Auckland
Has liked: 84 times
Been liked: 93 times

Post by Kloppsta »

Do all of those guitars somehow sound different? Or do you just have each one in a different tuning?
Little by little, by hook or by crook

User avatar
offender
Gretsch
Posts: 407
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2003 7:13 pm
Location: NZ

Post by offender »

B45-12 wrote:I feel there is a mental component to all this that works like

1) I try this, I fail; 2) I try this again I fail; 3-260) as per 2); I am now conditioned to fail each time I try thius.

My suggestion is break the cycle at about no's 10-20 as per the above posted ideas, BUT the most important IMHO is TRY the same notes a different way (leads to different expectations/stresses). You can then practice both (or umpteen) ways of playing the phrase and get over the stress/built in failure expectation.

The other, wicked, idea is dead simple - leave the awkward bit out!! Obviously there are some things you cannot leave out (for example the 'time bell' chimes in Sultans of Swing) unless you want the punters to riot, but it is surprisng what you can get away with!
I have been working with this (coincidentally) for a little while now, particularly since I posted this thread. I decided that the way I was doing the RHCP intro simply would never work out so I did change the way I fretted the parts that didn't work & found new ways which are much more reliable! It's certainly not 100%, however, before I would sit down & pretty much guarantee I would stuff it up, now I can sit down and I am fairly confident of doing it 90% correct if not 100% correct first time!

Part of this also is that in the last 3-6 months my foot tapping has become (naturally) much more useful & reliable and I find that foot tapping makes a major difference to how accurately i play something (Even with the metronome going/backing track on its still better to have the foot tapping at the same time). Previously I simply could not do both at the same time.

Also I have been simply working on parts to make sure I feel more comfortable with them in the early stages, and also someone on here mentioned about learning solos "backwards" (as in from the last bars to the first so you're always going into "familiar territory" i think was the term they used). That has been really helpful.

As such I've found that:

1. Relearning stuff you play wrong in a different way
2. Foot tapping
3. Learning new stuff with more focus on accuracy
4. Learning solos / hard stuff from the last bars first

has made a real, decent difference.

I still feel I have a long way to go but definitely glad I posted on the subject!

grolschie
Ashton
Ashton
Posts: 112
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:26 pm

Post by grolschie »

Optimus_prime wrote:I like playing riffs wrong

My own versions are more fun for me to play
Yeah, for me it's the chorus from LZ's "No Quarter" played wrong. Sounds great.

Post Reply