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Re: I'm retiring from charity work.

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:02 am
by jeremyb
crowbgood1 wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:57 am Wagon Wheel is actually a bloody great song.
I'm quite open minded when it comes to music, but I can't find a single thing positive about this song, its just so dreadfully bland!

Re: I'm retiring from charity work.

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:03 am
by foal30
robthemac wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:31 am
jeremyb wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:21 am
robthemac wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:28 am

That's why I tend to play it at least once per set.
This is why I don't think I could ever do the covers band thing, having to play songs to appease people who don't actually like music.

I think the universe was well and truly telling you its time Bruce :shock: :shock: :shock:
I was a covers-band whore from 15 through 27 years of age. For the money I was making as a teenage muso, I would play whatever the fuck the punters wanted.
If the weeks pay is determined by playing covers then yes
I’ll have a dig through and see if I can find some ‘90s set lists

Re: I'm retiring from charity work.

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:07 am
by MogwaiBoy
I'll never forget the time the Mint Chicks soundguy throttled me by the scruff of my shirt (literal chokehold), guitar in hand heading to the stage, and told me to finish by 9pm, not a second over, or he'd pull the effing plug because "I'm not here for you, I'm here for the Mint Chicks" - I so regret not braining him with my axe.

Or the time we drove 6 hours to Wellington to play 2 songs before being shut down because they just opened an apartment complex across the road from the bar and the bar was being inundated with noise complaints for weeks (thanks for telling us...).

Gigging is such an effort, and gets harder as you get older. The only time it's enjoyable is in the moment, during the set, when all the BS fades away and it's just about the music. That moment has to be powerful and it has to mean something to you and only to you, or it's simply not worth it. The only thing harder is actually finding other musicians who aren't shady and lazy, to be in the band with.

I applaud your move, but hope you don't give up on music itself - and go back to gigging when the time is right :)

Re: I'm retiring from charity work.

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:12 am
by foal30
MogwaiBoy wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:07 am I'll never forget the time the Mint Chicks soundguy throttled me by the scruff of my shirt (literal chokehold), guitar in hand heading to the stage, and told me to finish by 9pm, not a second over, or he'd pull the effing plug because "I'm not here for you, I'm here for the Mint Chicks" - I so regret not braining him with my axe.

Or the time we drove 6 hours to Wellington to play 2 songs before being shut down because they just opened an apartment complex across the road from the bar and the bar was being inundated with noise complaints for weeks (thanks for telling us...).

Gigging is such an effort, and gets harder as you get older. The only time it's enjoyable is in the moment, during the set, when all the BS fades away and it's just about the music. That moment has to be powerful and it has to mean something to you and only to you, or it's simply not worth it. The only thing harder is actually finding other musicians who aren't shady and lazy, to be in the band with.

I applaud your move, but hope you don't give up on music itself - and go back to gigging when the time is right :)
I thought you were Reuben from the Mint Chicks

Well I never

Re: I'm retiring from charity work.

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:33 am
by crowbgood1
jeremyb wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:02 am
crowbgood1 wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:57 am Wagon Wheel is actually a bloody great song.
I'm quite open minded when it comes to music, but I can't find a single thing positive about this song, its just so dreadfully bland!
Millions disagree with you.

Re: I'm retiring from charity work.

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:52 am
by Slowy
Dharmajester wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:01 am
When you cross that line of being more irked by the associated crap than elevated by the joy of playing it's time to back away.
This!
And I'm still playing; that will never stop.

Re: I'm retiring from charity work.

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:54 am
by Slowy
foal30 wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:01 am
Try not to be aggrieved with the Bass Player, as the principle musician in the band he would have many options and was probably trying to help out!
You give him too much credit. His wife was there.

Re: I'm retiring from charity work.

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:57 am
by Slowy
jeremyb wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:02 am
crowbgood1 wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:57 am Wagon Wheel is actually a bloody great song.
I'm quite open minded when it comes to music, but I can't find a single thing positive about this song, its just so dreadfully bland!
No, it's a Bob Dylan song. There are no limitations to how you interpret it. It's excellent raw material if you're good enough.

Re: I'm retiring from charity work.

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:01 am
by jeremyb
crowbgood1 wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:33 am
jeremyb wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:02 am
crowbgood1 wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:57 am Wagon Wheel is actually a bloody great song.
I'm quite open minded when it comes to music, but I can't find a single thing positive about this song, its just so dreadfully bland!
Millions disagree with you.
Millions voted for Trump!

Re: I'm retiring from charity work.

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:07 am
by jeremyb
jeremyb wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:01 am
crowbgood1 wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:33 am
jeremyb wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:02 am

I'm quite open minded when it comes to music, but I can't find a single thing positive about this song, its just so dreadfully bland!
Millions disagree with you.
Millions voted for Trump!
And on that note, given modern pop music is constructed to appeal to the masses rather than for its value as art, the masses are philistines with no actual love for music.

Re: I'm retiring from charity work.

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:08 pm
by MogwaiBoy
foal30 wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:12 am
MogwaiBoy wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:07 am I'll never forget the time the Mint Chicks soundguy throttled me by the scruff of my shirt (literal chokehold), guitar in hand heading to the stage, and told me to finish by 9pm, not a second over, or he'd pull the effing plug because "I'm not here for you, I'm here for the Mint Chicks" - I so regret not braining him with my axe.

Or the time we drove 6 hours to Wellington to play 2 songs before being shut down because they just opened an apartment complex across the road from the bar and the bar was being inundated with noise complaints for weeks (thanks for telling us...).

Gigging is such an effort, and gets harder as you get older. The only time it's enjoyable is in the moment, during the set, when all the BS fades away and it's just about the music. That moment has to be powerful and it has to mean something to you and only to you, or it's simply not worth it. The only thing harder is actually finding other musicians who aren't shady and lazy, to be in the band with.

I applaud your move, but hope you don't give up on music itself - and go back to gigging when the time is right :)
I thought you were Reuben from the Mint Chicks

Well I never
Being a junkie in Portland didn't appeal to me

</slander>

Re: I'm retiring from charity work.

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:28 pm
by StrummersOfThunder
jeremyb wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:21 am
robthemac wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:28 am
griff wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:25 am Just add some arsehole asking for Wagon Wheel every 10 minutes
That's why I tend to play it at least once per set.
This is why I don't think I could ever do the covers band thing, having to play songs to appease people who don't actually like music.

I think the universe was well and truly telling you its time Bruce :shock: :shock: :shock:
Oh you don't have to play what people like. Just look at us !

Re: I'm retiring from charity work.

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:32 pm
by Slowy
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:28 pm Oh you don't have to play what people like. Just look at us !
Excellent point.

Re: I'm retiring from charity work.

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:45 pm
by robthemac
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:28 pm
jeremyb wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:21 am
robthemac wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:28 am

That's why I tend to play it at least once per set.
This is why I don't think I could ever do the covers band thing, having to play songs to appease people who don't actually like music.

I think the universe was well and truly telling you its time Bruce :shock: :shock: :shock:
Oh you don't have to play what people like. Just look at us !
You guys target the crowds who shout "play us something none of us know"

Re: I'm retiring from charity work.

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 3:29 pm
by olegmcnoleg
robthemac wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:45 pm
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:28 pm
jeremyb wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:21 am

This is why I don't think I could ever do the covers band thing, having to play songs to appease people who don't actually like music.

I think the universe was well and truly telling you its time Bruce :shock: :shock: :shock:
Oh you don't have to play what people like. Just look at us !
You guys target the crowds who shout "play us something none of us know"
Wow, that’s my dream audience. Did not know it actually existed somewhere.