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Pastasauce · Post by **Pastasauce** » Mon May 21, 2012 9:38 am

Are there any guitarists who's tone prevents you from enjoying their music?

I was thinking about this while checking out Johhny Winter after seeing a Rig Rundown on his gear. He uses some kind of Steinberger monstrosity into a Boss Chorus pedal into a Musicman amp with the bass all the way off and the treble all the way up. Now, I definitely enjoy the kind of music Winter makes, but his tone is horrendous. It's overly gainy, shrill, and the random use of chorus just sounds so out of place.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcAbDF2rVdA[/youtube]

slash-ed · Post by **slash-ed** » Mon May 21, 2012 9:44 am

I like Dimebags tone, so... no. Nothing can deter me.

Doesn't Johnny Winter use some sort of sweet Firebird?

Post by **Slowy** » Mon May 21, 2012 10:01 am

The treble rolled off, neck pickup archtop tone used in Jazz. I hate it. In fact I prefer Jazz on anything other than a guitar which is a pity.

druz15 · Post by **druz15** » Mon May 21, 2012 10:04 am

slash-ed wrote:I like Dimebags tone, so... no. Nothing can deter me.

Doesn't Johnny Winter use some sort of sweet Firebird?

He used to, looked badass
And on topic not anyone in particular but most live metal bands I've seen (well all the ones that aren't at least semi-pro). I can tell the playing is good and they're playing some sweet stuff but they usually go for that br00tz tone with scooped mids and way too much bass and you can't really hear the notes with any clarity, just a wall of bassy chugs. Fractured and Tainted had sweet live sound though, think they were using Line6 Rack Pro things (the one that Sooapcharga has I believe) and that was a great live sound, but all the local bands just seem to have all balls and no definition. One exception was Osmium, a band we played with a couple times, they were just a 3 piece, and very tight so everything was exceptionally clear

SrThompson · Post by **SrThompson** » Mon May 21, 2012 10:08 am

More than the tone i can't stand his voice in that video, it's almost like his fighting against his fake theet

WellyBlues · Post by **WellyBlues** » Mon May 21, 2012 10:18 am

Winter plays an Erlewine Lazer made by the famous tech Dan Erlewine. Has for many years.

Also plays the Firebird, used it at Claptons Crossroads in 2010.

I have always liked Johnny's stuff but prefer his slower (it's all relative!) blues stuff. His vocals can be an acquired taste.

Miracle he's still alive, let alone playing, and making albums. The latest, Roots (with guests) is supposed to be very good.

Post by Bg » Mon May 21, 2012 10:22 am

Rhettsauce wrote: some kind of Steinberger monstrosity

This statement alone could earn you a 6 month ban. Fortunately I'm reasonably chillaxed this morning so I may overlook your indescretion.

And as I'm considering selling my steiny to fund my tricone gas...

Pastasauce · Post by **Pastasauce** » Mon May 21, 2012 10:38 am

Rhettsauce wrote: He uses some kind of Erlewine Lazer monstrosity

FIXED.

calling card · Post by **calling card** » Mon May 21, 2012 10:40 am

How dare you put Johnny in a title of hall of shame. It's all subjective, I love his stuff, you'd hate my stuff too.

Pastasauce · Post by **Pastasauce** » Mon May 21, 2012 10:47 am

Yeah - I agree that it's totally subjective.

And on that note... I don't like Steve Vai's guitar tone. It's the Pamela Anderson of guitar tones. Probably that's because I don't like the G3 style of music, but I also just don't like his tone.

...And now I'm going to run for the hills.

calling card · Post by **calling card** » Mon May 21, 2012 10:49 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbFAEw_Foqw[/youtube]

Pastasauce · Post by **Pastasauce** » Mon May 21, 2012 10:52 am

His tone is much better there!

bender · Post by **bender** » Mon May 21, 2012 10:55 am

slowfingers wrote:The treble rolled off, neck pickup archtop tone used in Jazz. I hate it. In fact I prefer Jazz on anything other than a guitar which is a pity.

Often yes but when they get it right it sounds exquisite. Slightly overdriven with the tone knob backed off just a tad. Lush.

Post by **Slowy** » Mon May 21, 2012 11:11 am

benderissimo wrote:
slowfingers wrote:The treble rolled off, neck pickup archtop tone used in Jazz. I hate it. In fact I prefer Jazz on anything other than a guitar which is a pity.
Often yes but when they get it right it sounds exquisite. Slightly overdriven with the tone knob backed off just a tad. Lush.

Can you suggest anything I should listen to?

mr_sooty · Post by **mr_sooty** » Mon May 21, 2012 11:16 am

benderissimo wrote:
slowfingers wrote:The treble rolled off, neck pickup archtop tone used in Jazz. I hate it. In fact I prefer Jazz on anything other than a guitar which is a pity.
Often yes but when they get it right it sounds exquisite. Slightly overdriven with the tone knob backed off just a tad. Lush.

I love a neck humbucker in an archtop for jazz, but there should absolutely no need to wind the tone control back. Should be plenty warm enough as long as the pickup's positioned well forward.

Steve Lukather springs to mind. Great player, but horrible eighties tone. Too processed and sterile.

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