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Re: Distortion Pedal Options for Metal and Pointy Guitars

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 6:59 pm
by JHorner
jeremyb wrote:Bro, do you even djent?
Only need one string for that!
https://youtu.be/QgRLLqYQh1Q

Re: Distortion Pedal Options for Metal and Pointy Guitars

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 7:28 pm
by dayl
:oh:
sirvill wrote:if you don't trust Pete Thorn, then definitely don't trust Ola either, he makes everything sound awesome.
Bahaha fkn Ola. I'm waiting for him to reveal that all his reviews are just him over dubbed with his axe fx patches and an RG350. He seems to get a very similar sound out of everything. Cool though

Re: Distortion Pedal Options for Metal and Pointy Guitars

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 9:39 pm
by godgrinder
dayl wrote:Bahaha fkn Ola. I'm waiting for him to reveal that all his reviews are just him over dubbed with his axe fx patches and an RG350. He seems to get a very similar sound out of everything. Cool though
They sound pretty different to me. The key thing is to listen to the gain structure/distortion characteristics than the frequency response. You can mess with the frequency response when mixing but the distortion characteristics remains.

But he pointed out in an interview that a big part of his overall sound are in the drums and the bass. So if he basically uses the same bass tone and drum sound then they all gonna have a similar overall sound.

Re: Distortion Pedal Options for Metal and Pointy Guitars

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 11:14 pm
by dayl
Jesus... look at the amps in your Sig, godgrinder. I just noticed them. No wonder you told me to get a decent amp.

Re: Distortion Pedal Options for Metal and Pointy Guitars

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 11:37 pm
by godgrinder
Boo-tik drive pedals are all fun and games until you realise the money you've spent on pedals could've got you an used 5150.

Re: Distortion Pedal Options for Metal and Pointy Guitars

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 11:41 pm
by dayl
godgrinder wrote:Boo-tik drive pedals are all fun and games until you realise the money you've spent on pedals can get you an used 5150.
Yup.... I read this, turned around and looked at my Limited edition Moogerfoogers, Empress, Strymon, TC etc etc...

You're not wrong. I just like playing with pedals.

Re: Distortion Pedal Options for Metal and Pointy Guitars

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 11:46 pm
by Aquila Rossa
dayl wrote::oh:
sirvill wrote:if you don't trust Pete Thorn, then definitely don't trust Ola either, he makes everything sound awesome.
Bahaha fkn Ola. I'm waiting for him to reveal that all his reviews are just him over dubbed with his axe fx patches and an RG350. He seems to get a very similar sound out of everything. Cool though
Tone I liked best from him was his Suhr SL68.


Re: Distortion Pedal Options for Metal and Pointy Guitars

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 11:52 pm
by godgrinder
Expensive pedals through mediocre amps still sound mediocre. Seen too many people with pedalboards full of high end pedals yet still play them through practice amps.

Re: Distortion Pedal Options for Metal and Pointy Guitars

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 12:18 am
by dayl
IDK man, I have a Peavey VK 212 which is very mediocre by valve amp standards but my pedals (808, OCD, Big Sky etc etc) sound great through it. On the flipside, I've seen a ridiculous amount of gear nerds on youtube with phenominal gear, amps etc sound like ass.

There's levels to this shit.

Re: Distortion Pedal Options for Metal and Pointy Guitars

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 7:00 am
by jeremyb
I dunno I think Ola's demos show you that any reasonable amp in a band context can sound great, it's the toan on their own that is hard to achieve, and to be honest a great toan on it's own often sounds bloody average in a band context....

Re: Distortion Pedal Options for Metal and Pointy Guitars

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 8:21 am
by sirvill
This freaked me out:

Re: Distortion Pedal Options for Metal and Pointy Guitars

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 10:52 am
by dayl
I was just giving Ola shit. He does get a bit 'samey' at times but his and Merrows vids have helped heaps with decision making in the past.

Re: Distortion Pedal Options for Metal and Pointy Guitars

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 12:18 pm
by Kris
jeremyb wrote: to be honest a great toan on it's own often sounds bloody average in a band context....
THIS.So many times ive got something that sounds great but is awful "in the shed".Which is why its essential to try the gear in the setting it will be most used in (if you can-muchos gracias to my RS broes for all the apro's over the years)and with you/your setup.

Re: Distortion Pedal Options for Metal and Pointy Guitars

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 12:34 pm
by dayl
Yup, definitely. Same with synth sounds etc and that perfect bass / snare / kick getting lost in the mix. Science can be a cruel bitch.

Re: Distortion Pedal Options for Metal and Pointy Guitars

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 5:58 am
by Danger Mouse
sirvill wrote:This freaked me out:
It's not that odd, he's cleverly kept the gain low enough to stay out of the cheap solid state practice amp fizz zone and is using decent pickups (I assume actives).

I have a H&K practice amp that does a great bedroom modern high gain tone, I've recorded it with a bit of EQ and it sounds monster. If I start pushing it it goes from great to awful pretty quickly though.