Rats ......... Which one ?

Post by Bg » Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:46 pm

The Scarecrow wrote:The Rat itself is the most musically pleasing followed bythe Rat2, which indeed had a bit more gain

No Gain, No Pain

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:55 pm

bluesgeek wrote:yep, pretty much - though mine sounds better, must be the fingers You get a huge tonal pallette from the 'Filter' control....

Oh I KNEW yours would sound better ....

just wondering if it was anything like those sounds !!

Here's some more sound samples I got last night. The Ratsputin is off eBay from guys who are modding Rat2's. They sound like a real good pedal with a heap of variation.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=009

Not sure where I picked up the others now, but they sound ok too.

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:03 pm

bluesgeek wrote:keep your eye out on TM, I got mine about 6 weeks ago from there for about $100

Rats .... I missed it ..

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:10 pm

Can't remember where these came from last night. It was bloody late ....

thehenderson · Post by **thehenderson** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:11 pm

Do people find sound samples useful?

I just can't get into them. I don't see how they help you decide at all.

Videos of people showing you how to use those ZVEX pedals are real cool though, real useful

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:17 pm

thehenderson wrote:Do people find sound samples useful?

No they are a total waste of fecking time if you ask me ..... I just posted them to piss people off really ..

But seriously though .... yes .. if you can't get to try a pedal out, and can't get a vid of it being used ... yes its helpful if you know what its being played on, and through what amp, etc ... so you can get an idea.
Maybe some sound samples aren't that accurate ... but others may be quite good ... and help you to decide if its the kind of tone you are after ...
IMHO, anyway

thehenderson · Post by **thehenderson** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:19 pm

I find it useful for effects, but for pedals that you leave on that contribute to your 'tone' I find the sound samples pretty useless. just by moving the mic around you get a plethora of different guitar tones, let alone the bunch of other factors

Tsuken · Post by **Tsuken** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:19 pm

bluesgeek wrote:Mines a Rat2 as is Tsukens I believe, works fine for me Got TMG gassing for one

Mine's a Rat2, indeed, circa 1986, which I guess makes it wowrarevintagecollectible - or something

I haven't played thru an original Rat, but I certainly wouldn't describe the tone of the Rat2 as "thin" in any respect. Great little things.

Just beware that after 20 years of stomping as hard as possible on them, the footswitch might get a bit touchy - or maybe I just got a lemon

Tsuken · Post by **Tsuken** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:23 pm

thehenderson wrote:Do people find sound samples useful?l

As long as they're not the sound samples of Dweezil Zappa demonstrating Peavey's abomination of an amp ... the Wiggy: http://www.peavey.com/products/demos/wiggy/ Be afraid ... be very afraid

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:24 pm

Tsuken wrote: Just beware that after 20 years of stomping as hard as possible on them, the footswitch might get a bit touchy - or maybe I just got a lemon

Oh mate !! 20 years and it's getting a bit dodgy !!!???? someone has ripped you off !!!!

I bet there aren't too many pedals out there in working musician land or even bedroom land, that can say they lasted that long, without a bit of wear and tear .....

Tsuken · Post by **Tsuken** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:26 pm

Exactly. Built like a brick samick-house

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:28 pm

Tsuken wrote:Exactly. Built like a brick samick-house

yes well I'd rather have a wack around the ear with a wet mullet, than smacked between the eyes with one of these rodents !!

thehenderson · Post by **thehenderson** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:31 pm

Don't know if it's the same with all of them, maybe you guys could tell me

But open the vintage reissue and you'll see the switch is mounted into the board. Don't go stomping tooooo hard!

Haha, that said I've never had any troubles. Although I just leave it on the whole time at the back of my pedal board

Tsuken · Post by **Tsuken** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:34 pm

thehenderson wrote:Don't know if it's the same with all of them, maybe you guys could tell me

But open the vintage reissue and you'll see the switch is mounted into the board. Don't go stomping tooooo hard!

Haha, that said I've never had any troubles. Although I just leave it on the whole time at the back of my pedal board

The Rat2 (at least the old ones) are the same, if memory serves

vacant · Post by **vacant** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:41 pm

thehenderson wrote:Do people find sound samples useful?

My drummer downloaded numerous cymbal samples which is ok for hearing what he wanted to buy and all but then he went and put them on his ipod so he could just listen to them, that seems a bit enthusiastic for me especially as it is just one hit on a freaking cymbal. I guess thats drummers for ya though

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