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Re: Philip Kubicki - Factor Basses

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 11:27 am
by bender
ash wrote:It sounds like you're confusing design with styling. Contrary to the beliefs of every teen fashion-school graduate or interior decorator, they aren't the same thing. :lol:

Sure the Kubicki is funny looking, but you can be assured they do work very well. Almost every comment you'll read is about how the thing looks, not how it functions. It's really easy to make things that function better than the classic designs, but unless they look right its game over and that can be a real shame.

Actually I was bundling the 2 concepts together. To me good design combines form and function. Show me a design with innovative function that doesn't look like a futuristic robot potato and I'll be impressed. The historic designs have become iconic and defined what people expect to see when they think of an electric guitar. It's pretty hard to fight that.

Re: Philip Kubicki - Factor Basses

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 11:40 am
by foal30
nothing against Stu but often it's like why?
why spend all that time "getting good" and then play uninteresting music?
I guess I condescendingly feel it's chops before taste.

Jenesis says no to an Urge?

anyway good on Kubicki for taking the Steinberger design and putting his spin on it.

Re: Philip Kubicki - Factor Basses

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 11:47 am
by Vince
ash wrote:It sounds like you're confusing design with styling. Contrary to the beliefs of every teen fashion-school graduate or interior decorator, they aren't the same thing. :lol:

Sure the Kubicki is funny looking, but you can be assured they do work very well. Almost every comment you'll read is about how the thing looks, not how it functions. It's really easy to make things that function better than the classic designs, but unless they look right its game over and that can be a real shame.
Yeah, and warthogs are ideally suited to their home environment and function very well indeed, too. Doesn't mean I have to find them attractive. ;)

Industrial design, which is what we are talking about here, IMO, is about mixing looks with function. So it's fair enough to comment on both sides of the equation. Personally, what I dislike about this bass, when it comes to looks, is the apparent indecision between the smooth curves and the jagged edges. It looks like someone took a couple of bites out of the body.

Re: Philip Kubicki - Factor Basses

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 12:52 pm
by dayl
Vince wrote: Personally, what I dislike about this bass, when it comes to looks, is the apparent indecision between the smooth curves and the jagged edges. It looks like someone took a couple of bites out of the body.


Sounds like you are refering to the Orchid
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Or maybe the fretless Equinox
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Re: Philip Kubicki - Factor Basses

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 12:57 pm
by Vince
dayl wrote:Sounds like you are refering to the Orchid
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Well, that design isn't afraid to draw a line in the sand. I'm not crazy about it, but I have more respect for it.
dayl wrote: Or maybe the fretless Equinox
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Not sure about that.

I like it, but I've kind of seen it before.

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Re: Philip Kubicki - Factor Basses

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 1:02 pm
by dayl
Yeah, its meant to be more ergonomical & functional than looks.

It looks like a slab of liver or a liung or something. 8) 8)