philipnz wrote:What a load of utter bollocks.
I think 50cent is crap, there, I said it - and i cant rap. I'm not going to learn how to rap just so that i can say i dont like it.
I think Ashley Simpson is crap. Do i have to have sex change and learn how to look stupid and lipsync out of tune to say she is crap?
Can I not say a band is crap if I cant play every instrument?
I understand you guys are passionate about your guitar gods and shredding but saying people cant dis your hero if you cant play his licks like you sit in your bedroom training hour after hour to do is the most dumbfuck notion i have ever heard. Do you think barry manilow is crap? I bet you cant play piano like he can
you think bono sucks? lets hear your singing voice.
get a freakin' grip.
You're missing the point.
(1) most of the stuff you're saying is "crap", you're actually saying you don't like. It's basically no different from me saying that gibson's are crap, because I don't like them. I don't do that (unless I'm taking the piss) - but I'll go out on a limb here and say you're not taking the piss. You sound deadly serious, and a little hot under the collar.
(2) You start walking a bloody shaky road if you start ragging on someone's musical ability if you can't do what they do.
(3) where the hell did I say this applied only to shredders, or technically difficult playing, or anything the fuck else? Don't say Billy Gibbons is crap unless you can master tone like he can, for example.
(4) some things are not music, so this discussion does not apply to them
- for example 50 Cent et al; if it has no melody, and no harmony, it's a chant over a drum-beat, not music. Therefore we as musicians can happily look down on it.
However, realistically we probably can't call it crap - all we can say is that we loathe and despise everything about it, and
as far as we can see there is no musical talent involved. NB: "as far as we can see". Have we ever tried? Are we any good at it? Is it maybe harder than we think?
Don't be so bloody sensitive, not to mention self-referential.
btw - I'm not just complining that that people "shouldn't dis my hero because..." (out of interest, who do you think my "heroes" are? I'd be interested to see what sort of assumptions you make about me). This actually started from my irritation at some "dissing" of Clapton - who I like, sure - but more as a singer and a songwriter than as a guitarist. I try really hard not to put down any players, unless I really really think their stuff stinks,
and I can play it well enough to realise that there's not enough redeeming value in terms of ability.
Oh, and a guy who can strum a bunch of chords to lots of songs is not a guitar god. He may indeed be a campfire god, and a great entertainer, but that doesn't make him a guitar god (and if this hypothetical person has half a clue, I bet he'd say the same). To be a "god" on any instrument really does require a level of virtuosity - not just knowing the chords to lots of songs.
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I can call 70's Fleetwood Mac pissy though as I admit the Lyndsey Buckingham had some good ideas 
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