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Re: The Rockbox Boiling Point Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:03 am
by MikeC
I can assure you all that a Marshall is just a modified Fender :)

Re: The Rockbox Boiling Point Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:04 am
by TmcB
MikeC wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:03 am I can assure you all that a Marshall is just a modified Fender :)
Not the Bassman and JTM45 though, surely!

Re: The Rockbox Boiling Point Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:05 am
by jeremyb
Miza wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:55 am Speaking of Jan Ray/Timmy clones, I built the Coda Effects Golden Hour and it has WAY too much volume; unity is with the knob at 9am. I don't remember my original Timmy being like that. Any reason this would be the case? I feel like I need to send it to someone to diagnose for me.
My Jan Ray clone is like that too, so much volume on tap!

Re: The Rockbox Boiling Point Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:06 am
by codedog
jeremyb wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:05 am
Miza wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:55 am Speaking of Jan Ray/Timmy clones, I built the Coda Effects Golden Hour and it has WAY too much volume; unity is with the knob at 9am. I don't remember my original Timmy being like that. Any reason this would be the case? I feel like I need to send it to someone to diagnose for me.
My Jan Ray clone is like that too, so much volume on tap!
So is my Klone :think: :eh:

Re: The Rockbox Boiling Point Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:09 am
by Miza
jeremyb wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:05 am
Miza wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:55 am Speaking of Jan Ray/Timmy clones, I built the Coda Effects Golden Hour and it has WAY too much volume; unity is with the knob at 9am. I don't remember my original Timmy being like that. Any reason this would be the case? I feel like I need to send it to someone to diagnose for me.
My Jan Ray clone is like that too, so much volume on tap!
Might be by design then.
I'm tempted to just change the knob so unity is at noon!

Re: The Rockbox Boiling Point Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:17 am
by TmcB
Timmys have a crapload of output if you’re using the original diode config (original no-switch version)

Re: The Rockbox Boiling Point Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:28 am
by Miza
TmcB wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:17 am Timmys have a crapload of output if you’re using the original diode config (original no-switch version)
Ah, good to know. Yeah, my Timmy had the 3-way switch, so a later model.

Re: The Rockbox Boiling Point Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:49 am
by calling card
Miza wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:09 am
jeremyb wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:05 am
Miza wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:55 am Speaking of Jan Ray/Timmy clones, I built the Coda Effects Golden Hour and it has WAY too much volume; unity is with the knob at 9am. I don't remember my original Timmy being like that. Any reason this would be the case? I feel like I need to send it to someone to diagnose for me.
My Jan Ray clone is like that too, so much volume on tap!
Might be by design then.
I'm tempted to just change the knob so unity is at noon!
Has it got a signal unity point 0 marked on the unit like you see on a mixer?

Re: The Rockbox Boiling Point Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:53 am
by Miza
calling card wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:49 am
Miza wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:09 am
jeremyb wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:05 am

My Jan Ray clone is like that too, so much volume on tap!
Might be by design then.
I'm tempted to just change the knob so unity is at noon!
Has it got a signal unity point 0 marked on the unit like you see on a mixer?
Nah, it's DIY. I haven't even marked up the box!

Re: The Rockbox Boiling Point Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:02 am
by robthemac
Miza wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:53 am
calling card wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:49 am
Miza wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:09 am
Might be by design then.
I'm tempted to just change the knob so unity is at noon!
Has it got a signal unity point 0 marked on the unit like you see on a mixer?
Nah, it's DIY. I haven't even marked up the box!
Unity volume must depend where the gain is set as well, right?

Re: The Rockbox Boiling Point Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:22 am
by NZTone.e
So yeah, the rockbox is a great pedal!

I had one of the handwired 808s, I really liked it, wish I’d never sold it, but I’d take a rockbox over it any day of the week…

It must depend a lot on playing style too…if you’re a guitar volume man, or a clean amp and multi drive stage pedal man or a bit of both.

I like playing things wide open!

Re: The Rockbox Boiling Point Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:36 am
by jeremyb
NZTone.e wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:22 am I like playing things wide open!
A man after my own heart :mrgreen:

Re: The Rockbox Boiling Point Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:15 am
by Miza
robthemac wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:02 am
Miza wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:53 am
calling card wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:49 am

Has it got a signal unity point 0 marked on the unit like you see on a mixer?
Nah, it's DIY. I haven't even marked up the box!
Unity volume must depend where the gain is set as well, right?
No, doesn't seem to be. It's just REALLY LOUD.

Re: The Rockbox Boiling Point Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:28 am
by jeremyb
Miza wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:15 am
robthemac wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:02 am
Miza wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:53 am
Nah, it's DIY. I haven't even marked up the box!
Unity volume must depend where the gain is set as well, right?
No, doesn't seem to be. It's just REALLY LOUD.
I set mine with the vol around 10 o'clock and the gain down fairly low just to give a bit of fendery tone goodness.

Re: The Rockbox Boiling Point Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:10 pm
by Slowy
AiRdAd wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:47 am
Slowy wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:45 am ProGuitar Shop Andy once described it as the perfect OD pedal; on the same plane as the Klon Centaur and KOT. History however, hasn't really supported that. I recently got mine out of its box (see what I did there?) to try and find out why.

The reason mine has lived in the cupboard is I couldn't make it work with other pedals. It's actually not an OD pedal, it's a full blown, tonally versatile preamp but the amount of volume it produces is insane.

It requires your amp to be almost asleep; volume on 1 or 2. But switch it on and you suddenly have more headroom, tighter bass and more gain voices than your amp ever demonstrated before.

So first question: What's happening here; how does that work?

One of the common criticisms I've read is it's a bit harsh; absolutely true but there's a simple fix. Run it into a Klone and you will suddenly have tooth marks on the back of your hand.

There's some experience of them here, Conway has one, NZTone.e has me under constant pressure to relieve me of mine. What's your impressions?
I know Conway had one on his board but I always feared that the Boiling Point into a cranked amp would cause detonation..literally.
If you're coming down to taranaki this summer - bring it it down with you, so that I can try it out :-) :-) :-)
Now that's a plan. See you next week.