No Suhrprise to anyone - but here it is!

[Vince]

And looks fucking amazing, Ed. I guess it probably sounds fucking amazing, too.

[handsoffmatt]

Hahaha usually guitar manufacturers are dealing with customers who complain when anybody MENTIONS the words "CNC machine". The usual guitar player reaction is "They were SOOO much better when they used to handmake them".
Interesting (and refreshingly cool) to see borge's post above being a proponent of manufacturing excellence in the guitar building industry. Nice.

But for the purposes of the conversation... IMHO, it doesn't matter whether they manufacture it with paper clips, silly putty and a Dora the Explorer compass; it's the end result that counts.....and the end result is that PRS make objectively outstanding guitars....with consistently excellent quality.

[StratMatt]

Well, this thread has been interesting reading. That is one beauty of a guitar Ed, I'd be very stoked to own that. Congrats.

Interesting about the PRS' getting better with the times, which when I think about it does make sense. I have a 2001 Singlecut, which is a beautiful guitar, then you take a look at some of the more recent stuff and its pretty amazing work. I was mentioning to someone the other day how crazy it is that you can sell LP Standards secondhand for around the $2.5k mark piece of piss, but I couldnt give the Singlecut away for quite a lot less than that. Obviously the brand names and whatever are attached to that, but the price tag of an LP to that same spec would sky rocket.

[jimi]

People want to buy the guitar used by their heroes... Slash and Jimmy Page vs Creed, Nickleback and Linkin Park.

No brainer innit?

[willow13]

People want to buy the guitar used by their heroes... Slash and Jimmy Page vs Creed, Nickleback and Linkin Park.

No brainer innit?

probably some what true..but who plays suhrs?? I know of reb beach but who else??

[StratMatt]

People want to buy the guitar used by their heroes... Slash and Jimmy Page vs Creed, Nickleback and Linkin Park.

No brainer innit?

Yep I quite agree. Though I currently view my PRS as my "Slash" guitar; dark burst and zebra pickups

[slash-ed]

People want to buy the guitar used by their heroes... Slash and Jimmy Page vs Creed, Nickleback and Linkin Park.

No brainer innit?

probably some what true..but who plays suhrs?? I know of reb beach but who else??

Guthrie Govan (previously), Tom Quayle, Pete Thorn, Ian Thornley (from Big Wreck), Andy Wood, Mike Landau.

Suhr gear seems to attract technically proficient players, that's for sure. But more on the rock/fusion side of things.

Too bad owning a Suhr doesn't automagically grant you those skills, as I unfortunately found out.

[robnobcorncob]

Don't forget Scott Henderson...

Plenty of session guys use them too, they are more widely used than a lot of people realise.

[SimpleSi]

Hahaha usually guitar manufacturers are dealing with customers who complain when anybody MENTIONS the words "CNC machine". The usual guitar player reaction is "They were SOOO much better when they used to handmake them".
Interesting (and refreshingly cool) to see borge's post above being a proponent of manufacturing excellence in the guitar building industry. Nice.

But for the purposes of the conversation... IMHO, it doesn't matter whether they manufacture it with paper clips, silly putty and a Dora the Explorer compass; it's the end result that counts.....and the end result is that PRS make objectively outstanding guitars....with consistently excellent quality.

Like Mr. Godin said, everything he makes, CNC.

Everything they make will be the same quality, measurements etc. No HUMAN error.

[willow13]

Hahaha usually guitar manufacturers are dealing with customers who complain when anybody MENTIONS the words "CNC machine". The usual guitar player reaction is "They were SOOO much better when they used to handmake them".
Interesting (and refreshingly cool) to see borge's post above being a proponent of manufacturing excellence in the guitar building industry. Nice.

But for the purposes of the conversation... IMHO, it doesn't matter whether they manufacture it with paper clips, silly putty and a Dora the Explorer compass; it's the end result that counts.....and the end result is that PRS make objectively outstanding guitars....with consistently excellent quality.

Like Mr. Godin said, everything he makes, CNC.

Everything they make will be the same quality, measurements etc. No HUMAN error.

and yet people pay HUGE money for fenders and gibsons from the 60's...even with all there flaws perfection doesn't equal mojo

[mrmofo]

CNC relies on pre cut slabs that fit into the cutting space.
Hand made implies a slower and more thoughtful process.

[Clanger]

Great looking instrument. I'm also a fan of their headstocks -- I don't get the dislike for them.

[Vince]

and yet people pay HUGE money for fenders and gibsons from the 60's...even with all there flaws perfection doesn't equal mojo

People want to buy the guitar used by their heroes... Slash and Jimmy Page vs Creed, Nickleback and Linkin Park.

No brainer innit?

[willow13]

Hand made implies a slower and more thoughtful process.

that are prone to human errors....as someone who builds 95% of their own guitars the human errors kill me with each build, but it is also what makes them "mine"...I am so conflicted right now

[willow13]

and yet people pay HUGE money for fenders and gibsons from the 60's...even with all there flaws perfection doesn't equal mojo

People want to buy the guitar used by their heroes... Slash and Jimmy Page vs Creed, Nickleback and Linkin Park.

No brainer innit?

yep exactly

to me these modern "super guitars" fall into the same group as the bootique amps/pedal/ what ever the fuck is "in"....all probably great but give me meat and potatoes any say. But then i'm a cheap ass so what ever