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robthemac wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:13 am

standardfour wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:16 pm if you want a natural relic it’s still gonna’ take you years of good honest use.

Ain't nobody got time for that.

I honestly have no idea how some guitarists get their guitars to look like they’re on their last legs. Having said that the ones I’m thinking of such as Gallagher, Kossoff, SRV, Sayce etc all bought them in an already ‘naturally reliced’ state

Then you look at someone like Brian May whose Red Special still looks like new on first glance

My 2 recent acquisitions hanging out with my Kramer

In those days, Gibson built stuff was not meant to last. Finishes deteriorated quickly and after a few thousand gigs they would look like they were on their last legs. Why some people pay exhorbitant amounts today for these poor specimen is beyond me.

However, the Great Guitar company then realised it could sell reliced, new guitars to the Gullibles. They could charge a premium while foregoing QC as the guitars would look 'sheit' from day one anyway. The beancounters loved the savings and the Gullibles loved showing of their brand new 'last legs' trophy...

Oh well

Surprised reliced amps haven’t yet caught on. I’m sure Marshall could get away with charging plenty for weathered, beaten up Plexi’s and people would buy them

Nek minut…

Mick from TPS gave a really good rationale for buying reliced gear in his recent vlog about his new Strat. He's 48, he's married with kids and a real job (which ironically involves playing guitar) and he's not gigging 4 nights a week anymore. He ain't got the time to "play it in man". And he likes how it looks and feels. So who cares what others think.

Miza wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:49 am Mick from TPS gave a really good rationale for buying reliced gear in his recent vlog about his new Strat. He's 48, he's married with kids and a real job (which ironically involves playing guitar) and he's not gigging 4 nights a week anymore. He ain't got the time to "play it in man". And he likes how it looks and feels. So who cares what others think.

Absolutely fair enough, that’s a valid reason. I watched his vlog from when he bought his already reliced Jason Isbell Tele and he even added a few more knocks to it by repeatedly dropping his keys and screwdriver onto the body

I almost wish my 2004 LP Standard had a few knocks and dings on it, I’d be less scared to play it

MiniForklift wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:56 am

Miza wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:49 am Mick from TPS gave a really good rationale for buying reliced gear in his recent vlog about his new Strat. He's 48, he's married with kids and a real job (which ironically involves playing guitar) and he's not gigging 4 nights a week anymore. He ain't got the time to "play it in man". And he likes how it looks and feels. So who cares what others think.

Absolutely fair enough, that’s a valid reason. I watched his vlog from when he bought his already reliced Jason Isbell Tele and he even added a few more knocks to it by repeatedly dropping his keys and screwdriver onto the body

I almost wish my 2004 LP Standard had a few knocks and dings on it, I’d be less scared to play it

I could lend you my kids for the day?

I just like that I don’t hate myself the first time I ding or scratch a relic and don’t have to handle it with kid gloves!

The degree of factory degradation on these guys is pretty over the top but they resonate beautifully and feel like home so I'll live with it.

jeremyb wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:17 am I just like that I don’t hate myself the first time I ding or scratch a relic and don’t have to handle it with kid gloves!

I kinda agree with that notion, a factory mint finish with one blaring scratch or ding is just annoying, I just always focus on the blemish and it bugs me. One scratch might as well be 10.

Do you guys think that genre/instrument type can dictate wear and tear acceptability? Thinking of a classical guitar in a classical music context (not Willie Nelson) or a big ol’ jazz box for jazzin’ with. Is it the electrical element that confers relic/worn appearance acceptable? Asking for a friend…

MiniForklift wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:28 am

robthemac wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:13 am

standardfour wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:16 pm if you want a natural relic it’s still gonna’ take you years of good honest use.

Ain't nobody got time for that.

I honestly have no idea how some guitarists get their guitars to look like they’re on their last legs. Having said that the ones I’m thinking of such as Gallagher, Kossoff, SRV, Sayce etc all bought them in an already ‘naturally reliced’ state

Then you look at someone like Brian May whose Red Special still looks like new on first glance

After two full restorations, mind you.

Two full restoration’s and yet it has never had a refret. That’s pretty crazy huh

clubhouse wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:47 pm Do you guys think that genre/instrument type can dictate wear and tear acceptability? Thinking of a classical guitar in a classical music context (not Willie Nelson) or a big ol’ jazz box for jazzin’ with. Is it the electrical element that confers relic/worn appearance acceptable? Asking for a friend…

Classical and Jazz players are usually seated and wearing smart clothes. Spankers of the electric plank can be dressed in less varnish friendly clothes and subject, through stage antics, their instruments to all manner of finishing stress. Although in the past I've been an 8 hour a day player, done a fair few aerial endings and occasional windmilling but never noticed more than miniscule accumulated surface damage.