StrummersOfThunder wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:34 am
I think this is a bit of a fallacy. The fender JM/Jag vibrato is one of the most tuning stable set ups. I have zero tuning issues with any of the JMs I’ve owned or currently own. I’ve had much more issues with bigsby armed guitars.
Comes down to set up and having good quality gear.
I think this is one of those we are both right things.
A stock squier may be below the threshold of what you consider good quality gear, and while my tuning has been better since I put 11s on it, I also no longer want to play it because 11s make my fingernails start to seperate from my fingertips. Too much bending or poor finger design maybe? Either way, it has helped me remember how fantastic my 335 is so I been playing that instead.
StrummersOfThunder wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:34 am
I think this is a bit of a fallacy. The fender JM/Jag vibrato is one of the most tuning stable set ups. I have zero tuning issues with any of the JMs I’ve owned or currently own. I’ve had much more issues with bigsby armed guitars.
Comes down to set up and having good quality gear.
I think this is one of those we are both right things.
A stock squier may be below the threshold of what you consider good quality gear, and while my tuning has been better since I put 11s on it, I also no longer want to play it because 11s make my fingernails start to seperate from my fingertips. Too much bending or poor finger design maybe? Either way, it has helped me remember how fantastic my 335 is so I been playing that instead.
Yep fair
I bet a squier with a decent nut job, a bridge upgrade and a spring upgrade would be pretty stable
Also comes down to neck angle and neck stability too I guess, tuners etc
Every guitar is going to be different. I might have just been lucky !
werdna wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:03 am
If the Jazzmaster were a car, it would be the Citroen DX.
Absolutely. Stylish and cool looking.
1935 Martin D-45, 1942 Gibson Southern Jumbo,1950 Fender Broadcaster, 1954 Fender Strat, 1958 Gibson Moderne prototype, 1959 Gibson Les Paul Standard.
1958 Fender twin, 1965 Vox AC30, 1966 Marshall JTM 45, 1977 Dumble OD Special.
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StrummersOfThunder wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:34 am
I think this is a bit of a fallacy. The fender JM/Jag vibrato is one of the most tuning stable set ups. I have zero tuning issues with any of the JMs I’ve owned or currently own. I’ve had much more issues with bigsby armed guitars.
Comes down to set up and having good quality gear.
I think this is one of those we are both right things.
A stock squier may be below the threshold of what you consider good quality gear, and while my tuning has been better since I put 11s on it, I also no longer want to play it because 11s make my fingernails start to seperate from my fingertips. Too much bending or poor finger design maybe? Either way, it has helped me remember how fantastic my 335 is so I been playing that instead.
To be fair, your 335 is a stand out!
"Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible god and destroys a visible nature. Unaware that this nature he's destroying is this god he's worshipping." - Hubert Reeves
It’s hard to think of two more different guitars (well maybe not that hard but you get my point) than a JM and a 335
Both great for their own thing but neither could replace the other in a collection
Which is why it’s essential to have both ! (Ideally in multiples)
jimi wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:47 am
Between the trem that can make tuning a little less stable, and the heavy gauge strings recommended to reduce the tuning problems, it’s hard to recommend one as a beginner guitar.
They do look great though, and the Squier build quality is decent. Mine is a 70s classic vibe squier, it plays well and the pickups sound pretty good out of the box.
I think this is a bit of a fallacy. The fender JM/Jag vibrato is one of the most tuning stable set ups. I have zero tuning issues with any of the JMs I’ve owned or currently own. I’ve had much more issues with bigsby armed guitars.
Comes down to set up and having good quality gear.
Neither have I. My floating trem Strat is a right pain in the arse in comparison. Forget alternate tunings.
I haven't had any tuning problems even with the stock trem and tuners on mine. Swapped it out because it was a bit clicky, the Stewmac one fixed that, better arm seat and better spring.
Love mine, its a 2019 VM made in Indonesia, fit and finish is great. The bridge swap made sense but I didn't find the stock one that much a problem but did dislodge strings occasionally. Also shimmed the neck which really helped.
ETA: On second thoughts I will keep this and sell some other stuff.
