Return of the Gibbons shocker thread!

[Litterick]

Gibson are less mockworthy now, since Henry Juszkiewicz was kicked to touch.

That's a fact, they've gone from strength to strength since '19.
However they're not perfect and their guitars are generally costly but they sell all that they produce and are one of the 'big boys' of musical instrument manufacture.

'19

[GrantB]

Firebird X - Henry's version of Homer's car

[kdawg2a]

Gibson are less mockworthy now, since Henry Juszkiewicz was kicked to touch.

That's a fact, they've gone from strength to strength since '19.
However they're not perfect and their guitars are generally costly but they sell all that they produce and are one of the 'big boys' of musical instrument manufacture.

'19

I wonder if in the future, any of the Firebird Xs that actually made it to the marketplace will be worth an absolute ton because of their rarity? If you found a Moderne from the 1950s (granted, they may have never actually existed) you could pretty much retire on the price and those things were pretty goddamn ugly as well.

[goldtop0]

That's a fact, they've gone from strength to strength since '19.
However they're not perfect and their guitars are generally costly but they sell all that they produce and are one of the 'big boys' of musical instrument manufacture.

'19

I wonder if in the future, any of the Firebird Xs that actually made it to the marketplace will be worth an absolute ton because of their rarity?

That last of the Henry J experimental era stuff('15-'18) falls into the 'file 13' category I think, as with the Marauder and Les Paul Professional from bygone decades there's just no fascination with the quirkiness and complicatedness of the beasties, too ungainly and irrelevant for guitar players. We want tone not gizmos.

[JoeBlow]

NGDays should be incredibly pleasurable - but this:

https://youtube.com/shorts/KIZvFpesb80? ... CH7Pzv6DkW

is no bueno. Why would a headstock break with no damage to the box

[hamo]

'19

I wonder if in the future, any of the Firebird Xs that actually made it to the marketplace will be worth an absolute ton because of their rarity?

That last of the Henry J experimental era stuff('15-'18) falls into the 'file 13' category I think, as with the Marauder and Les Paul Professional from bygone decades there's just no fascination with the quirkiness and complicatedness of the beasties, too ungainly and irrelevant for guitar players. We want tone not gizmos.

Amazing how much money we spend on gizmos to chase that tone though...

[Litterick]

'19

I wonder if in the future, any of the Firebird Xs that actually made it to the marketplace will be worth an absolute ton because of their rarity?

That last of the Henry J experimental era stuff('15-'18) falls into the 'file 13' category I think, as with the Marauder and Les Paul Professional from bygone decades there's just no fascination with the quirkiness and complicatedness of the beasties, too ungainly and irrelevant for guitar players. We want tone not gizmos.

We want the guitars we wanted when we were young. We want to fulfil our teenage dreams. We want a Strat, and a Les Paul. We want guitars designed in the '50s. We are not interested in quirkiness — we can buy pedals for that.

[robthemac]

That's a fact, they've gone from strength to strength since '19.
However they're not perfect and their guitars are generally costly but they sell all that they produce and are one of the 'big boys' of musical instrument manufacture.

'19

I wonder if in the future, any of the Firebird Xs that actually made it to the marketplace will be worth an absolute ton because of their rarity? If you found a Moderne from the 1950s (granted, they may have never actually existed) you could pretty much retire on the price and those things were pretty goddamn ugly as well.

A did a quick Reverb search and they look to be NZD$6-10k, which seems to be fucking outrageous.

[MikeC]

'19

I wonder if in the future, any of the Firebird Xs that actually made it to the marketplace will be worth an absolute ton because of their rarity? If you found a Moderne from the 1950s (granted, they may have never actually existed) you could pretty much retire on the price and those things were pretty goddamn ugly as well.

A did a quick Reverb search and they look to be NZD$6-10k, which seems to be fucking outrageous.

I think that destroying perfectly good guitars for marketing (or whatever) reasons is 'effing outrageous. But it's the way of the world I suppose. Grumpy old coont over & out.

[robthemac]

I wonder if in the future, any of the Firebird Xs that actually made it to the marketplace will be worth an absolute ton because of their rarity? If you found a Moderne from the 1950s (granted, they may have never actually existed) you could pretty much retire on the price and those things were pretty goddamn ugly as well.

A did a quick Reverb search and they look to be NZD$6-10k, which seems to be fucking outrageous.

I think that destroying perfectly good guitars for marketing (or whatever) reasons is 'effing outrageous. But it's the way of the world I suppose. Grumpy old coont over & out.

Gibson's statements at the time said there were safety issues with the electronics that weren't repairable. Dunno how true it was.

[Cdog]

Someone should do that with Digitech Bad Monkeys.

[MikeC]

Someone should do that with Digitech Bad Monkeys.

And every "Capo" guitar that was ever shat.

[NippleWrestler]

So this is interesting:

https://www.mylespaul.com/threads/someb ... ue.482965/

Basically, a guy bought an Epiphone inspired by Gibson LP, in China, looked under the hood and it didn't look like mahogany and maple. He sent the guitar to a lab where they confirmed the woods used weren't as stated and were other timbers (canarium and birch). He then sued Gibson China. Epiphones website then added a clause that "specs may change" etc.

I wonder how far back this goes.

[jeremyb]

So this is interesting:

https://www.mylespaul.com/threads/someb ... ue.482965/

Basically, a guy bought an Epiphone inspired by Gibson LP, in China, looked under the hood and it didn't look like mahogany and maple. He sent the guitar to a lab where they confirmed the woods used weren't as stated and were other timbers (canarium and birch). He then sued Gibson China. Epiphones website then added a clause that "specs may change" etc.

I wonder how far back this goes.

More interesting would be were Gibbons actually aware of this

[NippleWrestler]

So this is interesting:

https://www.mylespaul.com/threads/someb ... ue.482965/

Basically, a guy bought an Epiphone inspired by Gibson LP, in China, looked under the hood and it didn't look like mahogany and maple. He sent the guitar to a lab where they confirmed the woods used weren't as stated and were other timbers (canarium and birch). He then sued Gibson China. Epiphones website then added a clause that "specs may change" etc.

I wonder how far back this goes.

More interesting would be were Gibbons actually aware of this

Well, there's more detail in the guys post. He alleges Gibson China responded that the findings were "valid".