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Re: The Gibson Les Paul Model thread
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:40 pm
by murky
jeremyb wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:24 pm
murky wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:32 am
Formerly acquainted: 2014 R6. 8lb even. Recon it’s Murphy aged, but they stopped him signing his work around this time. Closest sounding reissue to vintage I’ve had - could have been a tele in another life….
Aroused. Whats the neck like?
Medium, smaller shoulders. Similar size all the way along. My favourite is a Warmoth Fatback 1” all the way up, this one was noticeably smaller than the Fatback, but big enough that most people would call it fat.
Re: The Gibson Les Paul Model thread
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:54 pm
by murky
chur wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:32 pm
Had these for years, not much has changed. 2000 LP Standard in a red flame type finish I brought from someone (Danny?) on here quite a few years back, and a 2008 LP Studio Faded. The Studio currently has some EMG's fitted, 81/89 TW set with push/pull etc from memory. Haven't really decided if the originals will go back in yet as the EMG's are quite clear, and splitting the neck one is really good. (Splitting the bridge 81 is meh)
Studio has been my goto for years, brought it used in San Fran as a beater while living there for next to nothing so brought it back. Heaps of natural patina, and I think the appeal more than anything is the lite weight and not having to care about it getting marked. It's mega dented and rubbed raw already. I did get Alan here to refret it not long back with the biggest frets he had to get my Zakk vibrato on.
The standard gets played maybe twice a year. It's nice, but heavy, and I usually always play standing up.
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Zakk Wylde signed cab! Epic! What’s the back story?
Re: The Gibson Les Paul Model thread
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:34 pm
by chur
murky wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:54 pm
Zakk Wylde signed cab! Epic! What’s the back story?
That happened before me owning it unfortunately. Its the ZW cabinet that went with his original sig head, but is really a dolled up 1960a. Currently I have V30's and GB's in it in a cross pattern. He must have signed it at a music store, as dragging a quad to a meet n greet would be rather committed..
I brought it with Laney head from up north somewhere, sold the head for fairly much what the entire lot cost me, so was happy to have something that looked good with the JMP
Re: The Gibson Les Paul Model thread
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:51 pm
by Bitbull
This seems to be the perfect thread for me to ask, Gibson LPC with '57 classics (50s wiring). To cover or not to cover pickups and why?
Re: The Gibson Les Paul Model thread
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:51 pm
by jeremyb
Bitbull wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:51 pm
This seems to be the perfect thread for me to ask, Gibson LPC with '57 classics (50s wiring). To cover or not to cover pickups and why?
Covers take a bit of the treble away, they look cooler though…
Re: The Gibson Les Paul Model thread
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:44 pm
by godgrinder
Bitbull wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:51 pm
This seems to be the perfect thread for me to ask, Gibson LPC with '57 classics (50s wiring). To cover or not to cover pickups and why?
What’s the bobbin colour underneath? If they’re black I wouldn’t bother.
Re: The Gibson Les Paul Model thread
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:22 am
by Slowy
https://www.premierguitar.com/news/gibs ... rs-edition
Looking at the packaging, you just know these will be spendy.
Edit: Yep, $999 USD.
Re: The Gibson Les Paul Model thread
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:10 am
by jeremyb
Weren’t they likely to be highly variable in those days?
Re: The Gibson Les Paul Model thread
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:32 am
by NippleWrestler
jeremyb wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:10 am
Weren’t they likely to be highly variable in those days?
They were yeah, they were all over the place depending on who wound them and how they were wound. I think Gibson got winding machines in the early 1960s (but could well be wrong).
The original Ibanez Super 58s are the best PAF repros I've ever found. Hoshino analysed sets of original pickups and made their pickups based on the average findings and they're superb.
Re: The Gibson Les Paul Model thread
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:59 am
by robthemac
NippleWrestler wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:32 am
jeremyb wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:10 am
Weren’t they likely to be highly variable in those days?
They were yeah, they were all over the place depending on who wound them and how they were wound. I think Gibson got winding machines in the early 1960s (but could well be wrong).
The original Ibanez Super 58s are the best PAF repros I've ever found. Hoshino analysed sets of original pickups and made their pickups based on the average findings and they're superb.
Agreed re: Super 58s. Such great pickups. I've never even considered swapping them out of my Ibanez.
I do also love Custombuckers, but damn they're expensive.
Re: The Gibson Les Paul Model thread
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:42 am
by MiniForklift
robthemac wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:59 am
I do also love Custombuckers, but damn they're expensive.
Yeah, that's as classy as I've ever got with regards to pickups (they were in my R8). Mighty fine tones within
Re: The Gibson Les Paul Model thread
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:48 am
by codedog
MiniForklift wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:42 am
robthemac wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:59 am
I do also love Custombuckers, but damn they're expensive.
Yeah, that's as classy as I've ever got with regards to pickups (they were in my R8). Mighty fine tones within
Are we talking about these ones here?
https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Product/PU ... BDBNC2-SET
If so, I'm curious... there are not many pickups with A3 magnets out there last time I looked. I think the early Super 58s used A3, but the modern ones don't... could be wrong about that one. I bought a set of cheaper A3 pickups, of similar specs to those Custombuckers linked above. They're gorgeous, but a bit bright and super low output. They do match the "... warm, sweet tone..." description on that page though. I like them, yet somehow they don't quite conjure up the word "PAF". Then again, I'm far from experienced in the PAF world.
Re: The Gibson Les Paul Model thread
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:02 pm
by robthemac
codedog wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:48 am
Then again, I'm far from experienced in the PAF world.
Same here. Never heard originals in real life. "PAF" to me is about balance. Not as shrill as a Tele (or even Filtertron). More full lower mids that a Strat but not muddy. Still has a little bit of top-end sparkle. Higher output than vintage-style single coils, but still has enough headroom for picking dynamics to show through.
I'm sure that PAFs vary and may not even resemble what I've described. But if I'm looking for humbuckers that meet those characteristics, Super 58 and Custombuckers are when I'd look.
Re: The Gibson Les Paul Model thread
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:35 pm
by codedog
robthemac wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:02 pm
codedog wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:48 am
Then again, I'm far from experienced in the PAF world.
Same here. Never heard originals in real life. "PAF" to me is about balance. Not as shrill as a Tele (or even Filtertron). More full lower mids that a Strat but not muddy. Still has a little bit of top-end sparkle. Higher output than vintage-style single coils, but still has enough headroom for picking dynamics to show through.
I'm sure that PAFs vary and may not even resemble what I've described. But if I'm looking for humbuckers that meet those characteristics, Super 58 and Custombuckers are when I'd look.
You mentioned you have Super 58s in your Ibanez. What year are those ones? Are they the original pickups in that guitar?
I'd love to compare my A3 pickups with the older Super 58s and Custombuckers. Damn hard to find anyone with those around here!
Re: The Gibson Les Paul Model thread
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:43 pm
by robthemac
codedog wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:35 pm
robthemac wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:02 pm
codedog wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:48 am
Then again, I'm far from experienced in the PAF world.
Same here. Never heard originals in real life. "PAF" to me is about balance. Not as shrill as a Tele (or even Filtertron). More full lower mids that a Strat but not muddy. Still has a little bit of top-end sparkle. Higher output than vintage-style single coils, but still has enough headroom for picking dynamics to show through.
I'm sure that PAFs vary and may not even resemble what I've described. But if I'm looking for humbuckers that meet those characteristics, Super 58 and Custombuckers are when I'd look.
You mentioned you have Super 58s in your Ibanez. What year are those ones? Are they the original pickups in that guitar?
I'd love to compare my A3 pickups with the older Super 58s and Custombuckers. Damn hard to find anyone with those around here!
It's a Ibanez LR-10, basically the signature model of Lee Ritenour form the early 80s. It has custom-voiced Super 58s that are a touch hotter than standard. I have them set relatively low and they're fantastic.