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Les Paul and Tele tuning stability tips?
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Re: Les Paul and Tele tuning stability tips?
Just turn a chorus pedal on, tuning is irrelevant!
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Re: Les Paul and Tele tuning stability tips?
It is a thing that some Les Pauls are just biatches for tuning...and some (my '68 RI for eg) rarely go out of tune no matter what you throw at them.
But I would suggest the nut is the single biggest factor in the equation. The newer Gibson nylon nuts on historics are really good for tuning, but I would suggest less so on tone. Life is tough sometimes.
But I would suggest the nut is the single biggest factor in the equation. The newer Gibson nylon nuts on historics are really good for tuning, but I would suggest less so on tone. Life is tough sometimes.
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Re: Les Paul and Tele tuning stability tips?
Toan is in deez nuts.
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Re: Les Paul and Tele tuning stability tips?
Always lube your nut!
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Re: Les Paul and Tele tuning stability tips?
I'm not sure why a properly-filed nut of a material cable of getting very smooth should have any issue with a string sliding along it slightly. The susceptibility to wearing micro-grooves, maybe?GrantB wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:16 pm It is a thing that some Les Pauls are just biatches for tuning...and some (my '68 RI for eg) rarely go out of tune no matter what you throw at them.
But I would suggest the nut is the single biggest factor in the equation. The newer Gibson nylon nuts on historics are really good for tuning, but I would suggest less so on tone. Life is tough sometimes.
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Re: Les Paul and Tele tuning stability tips?
I agree, I try to avoid string trees. I'd rather get staggered tuners.Dharmajester wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:17 am Regarding your Tele. I have found string retainers on the headstock can impact tuning. Particularly the vintage round brass variety which may not be applicable to you. However replacing with a graphtec version sorts the issue nicely. 3 barrel bridges are fine but for better intonation, slanted barrels help enormously.
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Re: Les Paul and Tele tuning stability tips?
So I sucked it up and bought a babicz telecaster bridge for my Tele. 6 saddle version. Firstly, holy shit - this sounds noticeably different unplugged and the sustain is incredible. It really is a level up in design.
Only thing is... In the heat of the moment I didn't take into account the string spacing. Now the strings are too close to the edge of the board for my liking. I don't know if I can actually do anything to fix that. May not be able to use the bridge after all?
Only thing is... In the heat of the moment I didn't take into account the string spacing. Now the strings are too close to the edge of the board for my liking. I don't know if I can actually do anything to fix that. May not be able to use the bridge after all?
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Re: Les Paul and Tele tuning stability tips?
I had a Tele with this exact problem after I'd installed steel compensated saddles. I went back to the threaded steel saddles that Leo used and just dropped those pesky E strings into a groove that left enough room from the edge of the fretboard. Less is more?Zaulkin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:27 pm So I sucked it up and bought a babicz telecaster bridge for my Tele. 6 saddle version. Firstly, holy shit - this sounds noticeably different unplugged and the sustain is incredible. It really is a level up in design.
Only thing is... In the heat of the moment I didn't take into account the string spacing. Now the strings are too close to the edge of the board for my liking. I don't know if I can actually do anything to fix that. May not be able to use the bridge after all?
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Re: Les Paul and Tele tuning stability tips?
I might be able to compensate at the nut. Let's hope so.MikeC wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:32 pmI had a Tele with this exact problem after I'd installed steel compensated saddles. I went back to the threaded steel saddles that Leo used and just dropped those pesky E strings into a groove that left enough room from the edge of the fretboard. Less is more?Zaulkin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:27 pm So I sucked it up and bought a babicz telecaster bridge for my Tele. 6 saddle version. Firstly, holy shit - this sounds noticeably different unplugged and the sustain is incredible. It really is a level up in design.
Only thing is... In the heat of the moment I didn't take into account the string spacing. Now the strings are too close to the edge of the board for my liking. I don't know if I can actually do anything to fix that. May not be able to use the bridge after all?
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Re: Les Paul and Tele tuning stability tips?
I have zero problems with Lesters going out of tune, I don't play them.
Works a treat.
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Re: Les Paul and Tele tuning stability tips?
LP's are great when the nuts cut correctly.
Its like the blanket statement of 'Floyd Rose are too hard too set up' - only if you don't set them up correctly, once setup they are perfect - they were designed to be perfectly in tune, and are when set up properly.
Both instances above are because, it hasn't been done correctly!
Take some time to learn how to do this, or spend a bit of cash and get it done by someone who knows what they're doing.
Its like the blanket statement of 'Floyd Rose are too hard too set up' - only if you don't set them up correctly, once setup they are perfect - they were designed to be perfectly in tune, and are when set up properly.
Both instances above are because, it hasn't been done correctly!
Take some time to learn how to do this, or spend a bit of cash and get it done by someone who knows what they're doing.
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Re: Les Paul and Tele tuning stability tips?
I just checked in regards to my Tele bridge question and both bridges seem to be spaced 54mm. But the gotoh one seems to feel better in terms of spacing because the strings don't slip off as easily. Weird.
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Re: Les Paul and Tele tuning stability tips?
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