Return of the Gibbons shocker thread!

[Slowy]

The headstocks are glued on anyway aren't they?

No.

Not on unrepaired ones.

[jeremyb]

The headstocks are glued on anyway aren't they?

No.

Not on unrepaired ones.

My bad, either way, Gibson aren't doing it to save the environment, and for that kinda money I'd want a single piece like my Edwards has

[GrantB]

Gibson aren't the only ones to do that though.

Also- quite apart from being a cost-saving thing- think about how much wasted wood there would be- probably a whole extra neck for every three that are made. Give me the glued-on wings any day of the week.

The headstocks are glued on anyway aren't they? no reason why they couldn't come from wider pieces of other wood!

Nope.

[GrantB]

I'd want a single piece like my Edwards has

Nope

[Bg]

The headstocks are glued on anyway aren't they?

No.

Not on unrepaired ones.

My bad, either way, Gibson aren't doing it to save the environment, and for that kinda money I'd want a single piece like my Edwards has

You know most guitars made in China, like yours, have a scarf joint though? I'd think that would be more of a concern?

[jeremyb]

Mines made in Japan and nope, no scarf joint! And certainly no glued on wings...

[GrantB]

They do use lots of glue though bg, as per this shot inside the Edwards factory.

[jeremyb]

[Bg]

Mines made in Japan and nope, no scarf joint! And certainly no glued on wings...

Yeah I know, they spray the poly on in Japan but all the bits are hacked out in China....it's well documented as is the neck construction, even the Edwards site says made from up to seven pieces of wood. The 3mm coating of poly will hold it together nicely

[jeremyb]

Mines made in Japan and nope, no scarf joint! And certainly no glued on wings...

Yeah I know, they spray the poly on in Japan but all the bits are hacked out in China....it's well documented as is the neck construction, even the Edwards site says made from up to seven pieces of wood. The 3mm coating of poly will hold it together nicely

Cobblers, I dare you to find a join in the neck of mine

[godgrinder]

Yeah I know, they spray the poly on in Japan but all the bits are hacked out in China....it's well documented as is the neck construction, even the Edwards site says made from up to seven pieces of wood. The 3mm coating of poly will hold it together nicely

3-7pc necks are usually considered as a premium feature nowadays for people who downtune to Z and use super thick strings. As a multi-piece neck combining different woods suppose to be more stable. There are extreme cases like Mayones that do 11pc necks on their flagship line.

His LP probably wouldn't have a 7pc neck though. However I wouldn't be too surprised if they pulled the good ol' fotoflame trick to have a scarf jointed neck looking like a 1pc neck...

[bender]

The headstocks are glued on anyway aren't they?

No.

Not on unrepaired ones.

My bad, either way, Gibson aren't doing it to save the environment, and for that kinda money I'd want a single piece like my Edwards has

I don't really care what Gibson's motivations are, but I absolutely hate, and I mean with every fiber of my being, that kind of wastage.

[Bg]

Yeah I know, they spray the poly on in Japan but all the bits are hacked out in China....it's well documented as is the neck construction, even the Edwards site says made from up to seven pieces of wood. The 3mm coating of poly will hold it together nicely

3-7pc necks are usually considered as a premium feature nowadays for people who downtune to Z and use super thick strings. As a multi-piece neck combining different woods suppose to be more stable. There are extreme cases like Mayones that do 11pc necks on their flagship line.

His LP probably wouldn't have a 7pc neck though. However I wouldn't be too surprised if they pulled the good ol' fotoflame trick to have a scarf jointed neck looking like a 1pc neck...

lolz it adds to the mojo

[jeremyb]

Ahem.

For the record, ESP states “ESP guitars are built in our main factory and custom-shop located in Japan. These are completely built and assembled by highly skilled craftsmen using the best parts & wood selection. LTD guitars are produced in our factories outside of Japan (currently Korea, Indonesia, China, and Vietnam), and are manufactured in larger quantities using an assembly-line production method. This results in lower priced instruments.”

The bottom line is that complete production of Edwards has returned to Japan after a brief interlude (at least 2009 maybe longer) when the initial phase of the manufacture (woodworking through painting) was done at the ESP China facility. While Edwards falls a little short of the Navagator line, the fit and finish are superb making Edwards guitars the most under-rated guitar brand in Japan. The bang-for-the-buck makes them one of the best buys around.

I've heard a rumour that Gibson actually have their guitars built in America, a land where such amazing specimens of technology and quality such as the Hardly Ableson and Ford F-150 (the most popular vehicle in the US of A) are produced

[jimi]

Wish I could get an f150 here for the kinda prices they get them in the US!

Totally hanging out for the RHD mustang too. Could be a worthy successor to my Aussie taxi.