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Re: Engl Amp?

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:34 pm
by FuzzMonkey
NippleWrestler wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:08 pm Good amps, but a pain to work on if the amp techs on YouTube are to be believed.
If that's the case, it sounds like the Engl and Mesa engineers went to the same school of amp design.

Re: Engl Amp?

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:12 pm
by JoeBlow
My brother has a Powerball 2. He bought it after hearing The Devil You Know - Heaven and Hell/Black Sabbath album that Iommi used on it. It's a bit like the Diezel VH4, channel wise (clean, crunch, high gain, even more). The clean is really compressed, in a good way. Definitely worthy of more than being pigeonholed as a "metal amp".

No experience with any others.

I'm impressed Music Planet has started stocking them. We need more higher end gear selection in NZ.

Re: Engl Amp?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:21 am
by Anvil Amps Alan
Engl are almost impossible to repair because the stacked PCBs make them nightmarish.
I won't touch them and I don't think Clarry will either.

Re: Engl Amp?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:49 pm
by Optical
I have a powerball, I like it.
The pcbs in it are fine to deal with, they're just installed component side down which means pulling the whole thing up to do anything, but that's only 20 minutes work. Still easier than a mesa haha

Re: Engl Amp?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 6:07 pm
by Mikeincarnate326
Is the Powerball a Fireball with more features or are they voiced differently? Fireball sounds awesome on tone demos etc I've heard but shares an eq section over both channels etc. Can't find as much info on the Poweball

Re: Engl Amp?

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:22 am
by Optical
Visually they are similar but the powerball is a different circuit / voiced different.
The powerball was one of the amps of the era, but doesnt get much hype nowadays.

Fun fact, all the Engl amps are based on the topology of the mesa mark IIc+. Obviously completely revoiced...

Re: Engl Amp?

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:14 am
by Kris
powerball is 100wand fireball 60w if memory serves right

Re: Engl Amp?

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 4:38 pm
by Mikeincarnate326
Optical wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:22 am Visually they are similar but the powerball is a different circuit / voiced different.
The powerball was one of the amps of the era, but doesnt get much hype nowadays.

Fun fact, all the Engl amps are based on the topology of the mesa mark IIc+. Obviously completely revoiced...

Ah awesome! Thanks for clearing that up for me. Will look more at a Fireball then.

Re: Engl Amp?

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 4:40 pm
by Mikeincarnate326
Kris wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:14 am powerball is 100wand fireball 60w if memory serves right
Just from what i can see online, I think Engl do a range of both 60 and 100 watt versions of alot their different models. They even have a 60 and 120 watt version of the Savage

Re: Engl Amp?

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:16 pm
by Kris
True,I was relying purely on memory heh

Re: Engl Amp?

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:19 am
by Litterick
Yesterday, the Guitar Amps section of TradeMe included an advertisement for Engel Fires. The Engel Fire looked a lot like a burning amplifier. I was confused and distressed.

https://www.engelfires.co.nz

Re: Engl Amp?

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:06 pm
by Olderama
Litterick wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:19 am Yesterday, the Guitar Amps section of TradeMe included an advertisement for Engel Fires. The Engel Fire looked a lot like a burning amplifier. I was confused and distressed.

https://www.engelfires.co.nz
Literally hot tubes

Re: Engl Amp?

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:10 pm
by Danger Mouse
Olderama wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:06 pm
Litterick wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:19 am Yesterday, the Guitar Amps section of TradeMe included an advertisement for Engel Fires. The Engel Fire looked a lot like a burning amplifier. I was confused and distressed.

https://www.engelfires.co.nz
Literally hot tubes
Good for playing Smoke on the Water perhaps?

Looked at the website, I have to say, that is a fucking weird looking pizza...