Strings to balance filtertrons ?

All things guitar, Les Pauls, Strats, Teles, Tokai, Ibanez etc. etc. etc.

Moderators: Slowy, Capt. Black

User avatar
StrummersOfThunder
Vintage Post Junkie
Vintage Post Junkie
Posts: 7392
meble-kuchenne.warszawa.pl
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:23 pm
Has liked: 862 times
Been liked: 1396 times

Strings to balance filtertrons ?

Post by StrummersOfThunder »

Having a great time playing the 71 gretsch nashville thru my bassman rig
Ive tweaked to pickups heights and pole pieces to balance out what seems to be a very bright high register and a somewhat dull lower register.
I ownder if anyone knows of a string variety that would add brightness to the bass register i.e the low E/A/D but remain neutral or even dampen the top?
I dont mind mixing and matching sets
Thanks!

User avatar
jeremyb
Chorus of Organs
Posts: 41705
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:03 am
Has liked: 7907 times
Been liked: 4257 times

Re: Strings to balance filtertrons ?

Post by jeremyb »

Sounds like you need an EQ pedal!
Slowy wrote: That's the problem; everything rewarding is just such hard work. Regret takes much less effort.

User avatar
StrummersOfThunder
Vintage Post Junkie
Vintage Post Junkie
Posts: 7392
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:23 pm
Has liked: 862 times
Been liked: 1396 times

Re: Strings to balance filtertrons ?

Post by StrummersOfThunder »

jeremyb wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:44 pm Sounds like you need an EQ pedal!
Would that help?
i.e. can you independantly increase brightness to just one specific register without effecting others?

User avatar
hercules
Squier
Posts: 377
Joined: Mon May 16, 2022 11:12 am
Has liked: 87 times
Been liked: 269 times

Re: Strings to balance filtertrons ?

Post by hercules »

I highly recommend contacting Stringjoy and using their string finder service. I found them really helpful and knowledgeable. I was buying direct from them but Covid shipping delays killed it; fortunately Toneology stock my main set.

User avatar
robthemac
Vintage Post Junkie
Vintage Post Junkie
Posts: 8824
Joined: Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:47 pm
Has liked: 1124 times
Been liked: 1453 times

Re: Strings to balance filtertrons ?

Post by robthemac »

StrummersOfThunder wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:55 pm
jeremyb wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:44 pm Sounds like you need an EQ pedal!
Would that help?
i.e. can you independantly increase brightness to just one specific register without effecting others?
Depends on the design of the EQ pedal. I have one that I used to tame the Gretsch a little bit.
Jops wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:46 am Spring is the comic sans of reverbs anyway.

User avatar
StrummersOfThunder
Vintage Post Junkie
Vintage Post Junkie
Posts: 7392
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:23 pm
Has liked: 862 times
Been liked: 1396 times

Re: Strings to balance filtertrons ?

Post by StrummersOfThunder »

robthemac wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:10 pm
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:55 pm
jeremyb wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:44 pm Sounds like you need an EQ pedal!
Would that help?
i.e. can you independantly increase brightness to just one specific register without effecting others?
Depends on the design of the EQ pedal. I have one that I used to tame the Gretsch a little bit.
That'd be quite an interesting function . cant quite get my head around it.

User avatar
jeremyb
Chorus of Organs
Posts: 41705
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:03 am
Has liked: 7907 times
Been liked: 4257 times

Re: Strings to balance filtertrons ?

Post by jeremyb »

On the string side, you could try some stainless wound strings, they have gotta be the brightest option for an electric I imagine :-)
Slowy wrote: That's the problem; everything rewarding is just such hard work. Regret takes much less effort.

User avatar
robthemac
Vintage Post Junkie
Vintage Post Junkie
Posts: 8824
Joined: Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:47 pm
Has liked: 1124 times
Been liked: 1453 times

Re: Strings to balance filtertrons ?

Post by robthemac »

StrummersOfThunder wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:15 pm
robthemac wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:10 pm
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:55 pm

Would that help?
i.e. can you independantly increase brightness to just one specific register without effecting others?
Depends on the design of the EQ pedal. I have one that I used to tame the Gretsch a little bit.
That'd be quite an interesting function . cant quite get my head around it.
If you're cutting the 1kHz frequency on an EQ pedal, that will impact on all strings. But the strings have different distributions of frequencies, so eBG strings will be proportionately more impacted by a cut in the upper mod/treble frequencies.
Jops wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:46 am Spring is the comic sans of reverbs anyway.

User avatar
StrummersOfThunder
Vintage Post Junkie
Vintage Post Junkie
Posts: 7392
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:23 pm
Has liked: 862 times
Been liked: 1396 times

Re: Strings to balance filtertrons ?

Post by StrummersOfThunder »

robthemac wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:33 pm
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:15 pm
robthemac wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:10 pm

Depends on the design of the EQ pedal. I have one that I used to tame the Gretsch a little bit.
That'd be quite an interesting function . cant quite get my head around it.
If you're cutting the 1kHz frequency on an EQ pedal, that will impact on all strings. But the strings have different distributions of frequencies, so eBG strings will be proportionately more impacted by a cut in the upper mod/treble frequencies.
Ahhh I see
Ok .... I still need a bigger pedal board

User avatar
GrantB
ADMIN
Posts: 15993
Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2003 9:04 am
Location: Where I need to be
Has liked: 1388 times
Been liked: 2132 times

Re: Strings to balance filtertrons ?

Post by GrantB »

71 will have black tops I think?

Lower the pickup, then raise the three wound string pole pieces to taste.

Maybe. Works on earlier Filters.
"Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible god and destroys a visible nature. Unaware that this nature he's destroying is this god he's worshipping." - Hubert Reeves

User avatar
StrummersOfThunder
Vintage Post Junkie
Vintage Post Junkie
Posts: 7392
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:23 pm
Has liked: 862 times
Been liked: 1396 times

Re: Strings to balance filtertrons ?

Post by StrummersOfThunder »

GrantB wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:52 pm 71 will have black tops I think?

Lower the pickup, then raise the three wound string pole pieces to taste.

Maybe. Works on earlier Filters.
This is exactly what I've done
It's about 80% there. Just wondered about strings to finish the job ...m

User avatar
GrantB
ADMIN
Posts: 15993
Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2003 9:04 am
Location: Where I need to be
Has liked: 1388 times
Been liked: 2132 times

Re: Strings to balance filtertrons ?

Post by GrantB »

StrummersOfThunder wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:36 pm
GrantB wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:52 pm 71 will have black tops I think?

Lower the pickup, then raise the three wound string pole pieces to taste.

Maybe. Works on earlier Filters.
This is exactly what I've done
It's about 80% there. Just wondered about strings to finish the job ...m
Sorry, I didn’t read properly,

What about pure nickel for g,b,e and stainless or nickel coated for e,a,d?
"Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible god and destroys a visible nature. Unaware that this nature he's destroying is this god he's worshipping." - Hubert Reeves

User avatar
StrummersOfThunder
Vintage Post Junkie
Vintage Post Junkie
Posts: 7392
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:23 pm
Has liked: 862 times
Been liked: 1396 times

Re: Strings to balance filtertrons ?

Post by StrummersOfThunder »

GrantB wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 4:02 pm
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:36 pm
GrantB wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:52 pm 71 will have black tops I think?

Lower the pickup, then raise the three wound string pole pieces to taste.

Maybe. Works on earlier Filters.
This is exactly what I've done
It's about 80% there. Just wondered about strings to finish the job ...m
Sorry, I didn’t read properly,

What about pure nickel for g,b,e and stainless or nickel coated for e,a,d?
Yes this is kind of what I was thinking but I've never crossed the streams before

User avatar
bender
Darth Fader
Posts: 11878
Joined: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:46 pm
Location: Dorkland
Has liked: 418 times
Been liked: 1022 times

Re: Strings to balance filtertrons ?

Post by bender »

It’s less of an issue with HiLoTrons, so I’ve often wondered if it’s a function of the humbucking nature of Filtertrons?

That being said, it’s not as much of an issue with the bridge pickup either…

User avatar
Slowy
Vintage Post Junkie
Vintage Post Junkie
Posts: 23045
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:13 pm
Location: Orcland
Has liked: 1030 times
Been liked: 2519 times

Re: Strings to balance filtertrons ?

Post by Slowy »

StrummersOfThunder wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:52 pm
robthemac wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:33 pm

If you're cutting the 1kHz frequency on an EQ pedal, that will impact on all strings. But the strings have different distributions of frequencies, so eBG strings will be proportionately more impacted by a cut in the upper mod/treble frequencies.
Ahhh I see
Ok .... I still need a bigger pedal board
This is The Forum encapsulated.
Beyond a critical point within a finite space, freedom diminishes as numbers increase. This is as true of humans as it is of gas molecules in a sealed flask. The human question is not how many can possibly survive within the system, but what kind of existence is possible for those who so survive.

Post Reply