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Re: SEAVERB outboard reverb tank thread

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:10 am
by MikeC
I'll send you some info a little later today.

Re: SEAVERB outboard reverb tank thread

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:36 am
by StrummersOfThunder
MikeC wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:06 am You need an "isolated ground" - the chassis ground is isolated from earth but still sufficiently connected for electric shock safety. Its fairly simple but very clever. I initially had the hummmm problem (earth loop) on the Fender 6G15 Reverb unit that I built but eliminated it by implementing the isolated ground scheme. The modern re-issue Fender 6G15 has it built in.
I have this built per Merlin’s page (I think )

Re: SEAVERB outboard reverb tank thread

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:42 am
by robthemac
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:36 am
MikeC wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:06 am You need an "isolated ground" - the chassis ground is isolated from earth but still sufficiently connected for electric shock safety. Its fairly simple but very clever. I initially had the hummmm problem (earth loop) on the Fender 6G15 Reverb unit that I built but eliminated it by implementing the isolated ground scheme. The modern re-issue Fender 6G15 has it built in.


I have this built per Merlin’s page (I think )
Who needs safety when you have drip

Re: SEAVERB outboard reverb tank thread

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:47 am
by StrummersOfThunder
MikeC wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:10 am I'll send you some info a little later today.
I’ve isolated all the jacks and I built a floating ground with a big 5w resistor, a cap and two anti parallel diodes on a strip of eyelet board. Then I have the star grounding style with a common return to the floating ground point

Re: SEAVERB outboard reverb tank thread

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:51 am
by MikeC
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:47 am
MikeC wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:10 am I'll send you some info a little later today.
I’ve isolated all the jacks and I built a floating ground with a big 5w resistor, a cap and two anti parallel diodes on a strip of eyelet board. Then I have the star grounding style with a common return to the floating ground point
Sounds like you've already done it. I've PM'd you anyway.

Re: SEAVERB outboard reverb tank thread

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:52 am
by StrummersOfThunder
MikeC wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:51 am
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:47 am
MikeC wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:10 am I'll send you some info a little later today.
I’ve isolated all the jacks and I built a floating ground with a big 5w resistor, a cap and two anti parallel diodes on a strip of eyelet board. Then I have the star grounding style with a common return to the floating ground point
Sounds like you've already done it. I've PM'd you anyway.
Yes , about 8 years ago ;)

Re: SEAVERB outboard reverb tank thread

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:54 am
by MikeC
jeremyb wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:09 am
MikeC wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:06 am You need an "isolated ground" - the chassis ground is isolated from earth but still sufficiently connected for electric shock safety. Its fairly simple but very clever. I initially had the hummmm problem (earth loop) on the Fender 6G15 Reverb unit that I built but eliminated it by implementing the isolated ground scheme.
Can you explain this sorcery Mike?? Sounds wild!
Hey JB, I mis-read YOUR post thinking it was strummers asking. It's too hard to "explain" in a post, want me to send you the info?

Re: SEAVERB outboard reverb tank thread

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:58 am
by MikeC
robthemac wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:42 am
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:36 am
MikeC wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:06 am You need an "isolated ground" - the chassis ground is isolated from earth but still sufficiently connected for electric shock safety. Its fairly simple but very clever. I initially had the hummmm problem (earth loop) on the Fender 6G15 Reverb unit that I built but eliminated it by implementing the isolated ground scheme. The modern re-issue Fender 6G15 has it built in.


I have this built per Merlin’s page (I think )
Who needs safety when you have drip
Lucky for you, a certain guy that builds amps for people is very safety conscious :shock: :D
(See what I did there with the "shocked" emoji)

Re: SEAVERB outboard reverb tank thread

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 7:37 am
by jeremyb
MikeC wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:54 am
jeremyb wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:09 am
MikeC wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:06 am You need an "isolated ground" - the chassis ground is isolated from earth but still sufficiently connected for electric shock safety. Its fairly simple but very clever. I initially had the hummmm problem (earth loop) on the Fender 6G15 Reverb unit that I built but eliminated it by implementing the isolated ground scheme.
Can you explain this sorcery Mike?? Sounds wild!
Hey JB, I mis-read YOUR post thinking it was strummers asking. It's too hard to "explain" in a post, want me to send you the info?
HA! All good, it sounds like Strummers has explained it above but thank you for the offer!

Re: SEAVERB outboard reverb tank thread

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 7:48 am
by MikeC
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:52 am
MikeC wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:51 am
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:47 am

I’ve isolated all the jacks and I built a floating ground with a big 5w resistor, a cap and two anti parallel diodes on a strip of eyelet board. Then I have the star grounding style with a common return to the floating ground point
Sounds like you've already done it. I've PM'd you anyway.
Yes , about 8 years ago ;)
Wow, time has really slowed down since 2021 :eh:

Re: SEAVERB outboard reverb tank thread

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:09 am
by StrummersOfThunder
MikeC wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 7:48 am
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:52 am
MikeC wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:51 am

Sounds like you've already done it. I've PM'd you anyway.
Yes , about 8 years ago ;)
Wow, time has really slowed down since 2021 :eh:
Maybe 7 years
I made my original one in 2016 I think

Re: SEAVERB outboard reverb tank thread

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:58 pm
by StrummersOfThunder
Closing in on having all the parts now ….
I pilfered a few 22mf caps a while back so I’m short 3

The filter cap schematic calls for 1 x 47mf and 2x 22mf

I actually have three fairly essentially new 47mf on an old board I never used . Any reason I can beef up the filter cap battery on the reverb tank ? I.e could I sub in a 47 for a 22? I’m aware on guitar amps this can have an effect on tone in terms of tightening up bass response. Any issues here ?

Re: SEAVERB outboard reverb tank thread

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 6:19 pm
by MikeC
Can you post the schematic you are referring to?

Re: SEAVERB outboard reverb tank thread

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 6:52 pm
by StrummersOfThunder
MikeC wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 6:19 pm Can you post the schematic you are referring to?
Actually good question
It’s based on the schematic I translated from the tank I built years ago ….but it sounds incredible so I’m replicating it. That’s why I’m a bit worried about straying from that

Re: SEAVERB outboard reverb tank thread

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 6:53 pm
by StrummersOfThunder
But that aside, in essence, should it matter ?