Laminated ply for cab - will it kill the tone?
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Laminated ply for cab - will it kill the tone?
I rescued a few bits of pretty heavy 18mm ply out of the skip at a friend's business (used for making furniture), but it has a plastic laminate coating on both surfaces about 0.5mm thick.
I was planning to make a 1x12 cab with it, but I'm wondering if the laminate will affect the sound inside the cab (the way the sound waves interact with the wood; leading to less resonance and a more brittle sound?).
Anyone had experience using anything like this for making cabs? Turn out ok?
I was planning to make a 1x12 cab with it, but I'm wondering if the laminate will affect the sound inside the cab (the way the sound waves interact with the wood; leading to less resonance and a more brittle sound?).
Anyone had experience using anything like this for making cabs? Turn out ok?
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Re: Laminated ply for cab - will it kill the tone?
No idea how it will change the sound. Is the laminate glued on? A bit of heat might loosen it enough so you can pry it off?
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Re: Laminated ply for cab - will it kill the tone?
Nah - Tolex is a laminate, And I think those old Marshall cabs sound pretty good.
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Re: Laminated ply for cab - will it kill the tone?
Good suggestions.
I've got a heat gun; I could try scrapping if off initially. Failing that, my dad's table saw has a planer. Might give it a crack on a piece.
I've got a heat gun; I could try scrapping if off initially. Failing that, my dad's table saw has a planer. Might give it a crack on a piece.
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Re: Laminated ply for cab - will it kill the tone?
Yeah, but I'm worried about the effects on the inside of the cab? You don't reckon it'll make a difference?
I know a lot of cabs are painted black inside, but paint is thin compared to this.
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Re: Laminated ply for cab - will it kill the tone?
I doubt it'll make any difference, its plywood for a start, its laminated with glue.
If you're really worried, I'll build you one from unicorn sperm.
If you're really worried, I'll build you one from unicorn sperm.
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Re: Laminated ply for cab - will it kill the tone?
or you could just add some soundproofing stuff inside i.e. batts. that will stop any standing wave malarkey (or at least set your mind at rest)
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Re: Laminated ply for cab - will it kill the tone?
Painting them black just makes them darker.
Far be it for me to impede a man determined to give himself a world of trouble and extra work. If you really must delaminate the melteca, knock yourself out. But unless you are building a period correct vintage recreation, I can't for the life of me see why you'd bother.
It'll be fine.
Probably best not to use it for the baffle though.
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Re: Laminated ply for cab - will it kill the tone?
I reckon it might sound good - even more lively perhaps?
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Re: Laminated ply for cab - will it kill the tone?
Given a lot of modern amps use MDF, perhaps the laminate won't make a huge difference.
I'll use a standard 12mm ply for the baffle though.
Cheers for the advice.
I'll use a standard 12mm ply for the baffle though.
Cheers for the advice.
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Re: Laminated ply for cab - will it kill the tone?
are there regularly big enough bits for a cab? and where is this skip? :)
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Re: Laminated ply for cab - will it kill the tone?
Ha ha, yeah I was shocked at the waste. The apprentice had made a few errors on the pieces and they were taking up space, so they got tossed. I guess in those kinds of businesses, mucking around using scraps is time consuming and not worth it.
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Re: Laminated ply for cab - will it kill the tone?
floor sections from containers are a good one ive found as well,garked a few off cuts from my brothers work.One of my idiot beast cabs is all 18mm.....no wait,its actually 28mm haha christ no wonder it weighs a bit!