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Re: This 100 watt 'big iron' thing. Let's talk more about that...

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kdawg2a wrote:Thinking out loud here a bit. My dream amp would be 2 channels, slightly pushed tweed deluxe for my clean and driven plexi for my dirty channel. Somewhere around 20 watts. If it was to be built, would it be worth building with oversize transformers to help with lower volume response and 'fullness'?
Ryan, can it be done? How much?!

Isn't that what a Rivera does?
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H671 wrote:
kdawg2a wrote:Thinking out loud here a bit. My dream amp would be 2 channels, slightly pushed tweed deluxe for my clean and driven plexi for my dirty channel. Somewhere around 20 watts. If it was to be built, would it be worth building with oversize transformers to help with lower volume response and 'fullness'?
Ryan, can it be done? How much?!

Isn't that what a Rivera does?
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kdawg2a wrote:
H671 wrote:
kdawg2a wrote:Thinking out loud here a bit. My dream amp would be 2 channels, slightly pushed tweed deluxe for my clean and driven plexi for my dirty channel. Somewhere around 20 watts. If it was to be built, would it be worth building with oversize transformers to help with lower volume response and 'fullness'?
Ryan, can it be done? How much?!

Isn't that what a Rivera does?
I have no idea.
Sounds similar to JB's amp?

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This is a cool/handy thread actually, always good to know how to work your amps to get the best from them.
With clean head room the goal, I always used to set my 800's power section high and use the pre amp as a master volume. It sounded bigger that way compared to the other way around. Once I get back into the practice room I'm gonna have a good fiddle to find the sweet spot.

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Thewilltopowerrock wrote: Sounds similar to JB's amp?
Mines very similar, just different flavours, full of so much magic tho', Ryan is THE MAN!!!
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kdawg2a wrote:My dream amp would be 2 channels, slightly pushed tweed deluxe for my clean and driven plexi for my dirty channel. Somewhere around 20 watts.
If it's a tweed/JTM hybrid I imagine it would be quite doable as they do share some similarities.
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kdawg2a wrote:Thinking out loud here a bit. My dream amp would be 2 channels, slightly pushed tweed deluxe for my clean and driven plexi for my dirty channel. Somewhere around 20 watts. If it was to be built, would it be worth building with oversize transformers to help with lower volume response and 'fullness'?
Ryan, can it be done? How much?!
Definitely can be done. Mercury Magnetics started offering this kind of things years ago - over-sized output and power transformer upgrades, which they refer to as Fat-Stack or Super-Stack - definitely makes a difference, particularly to the low-end and the overall transient response, and you can less compression from OT saturation when the output section is pushed hard.

With the current FX rate, a ballpark for that kind of build is $2.5K ... but stay tuned, I'm looking at offering some economy options for builds this summer which may still tick the big iron + lower wattage box.
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There’s certainly something about big trannies - My THD Univalve had massive great trannies, the size of which you’d expect on a 100 watt amp, and that was only a 10 watt amp. But it sounded big, nothing at all like other low watt amps I’ve tried and it had great dynamics

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A well-designed/spec'd single-ended amp such as the Univalve should have larger transformers than you might expect for a low-wattage amp; the OT will need to be an air-gapped design which automatically makes it larger than a typical low-wattage push-pull OT.
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bbrunskill wrote:There’s certainly something about big trannies
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kdawg2a wrote:
I gig with a 5 watt Marshall class 5 (going through the same cab as the plexi) and it gets me 80% of the tone at a usable volume.

Quick Question: are you one of those guys who uses the fold-back to hear the Guitar amp?
There are still some that think the neck PU is moved to accommodate the extra frets which only proves they cannot detect the difference in length of each.

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AmpShop wrote:
kdawg2a wrote:Thinking out loud here a bit. My dream amp would be 2 channels, slightly pushed tweed deluxe for my clean and driven plexi for my dirty channel. Somewhere around 20 watts. If it was to be built, would it be worth building with oversize transformers to help with lower volume response and 'fullness'?
Ryan, can it be done? How much?!
Definitely can be done. Mercury Magnetics started offering this kind of things years ago - over-sized output and power transformer upgrades, which they refer to as Fat-Stack or Super-Stack - definitely makes a difference, particularly to the low-end and the overall transient response, and you can less compression from OT saturation when the output section is pushed hard.

With the current FX rate, a ballpark for that kind of build is $2.5K ... but stay tuned, I'm looking at offering some economy options for builds this summer which may still tick the big iron + lower wattage box.
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oh big trannies? how about these in the DJW. for a 10-12 watt head. :D

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mrmofo wrote:
kdawg2a wrote:
I gig with a 5 watt Marshall class 5 (going through the same cab as the plexi) and it gets me 80% of the tone at a usable volume.

Quick Question: are you one of those guys who uses the fold-back to hear the Guitar amp?
Nope. Acoustics go through the fold back but the electric just projects straight out from the amp. I very rarely need to go past 3 on the volume and my drummer plays like Animal.
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