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Re: What a lot of us have been wanting from Kemper..

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:26 am
by robthemac
I dunno, at this price point I'd rather no screen for the smaller footprint. If you're diving headfirst into modelling why not go the app route. I'm constantly frustrated by the poor-quality computer program and connectivity issues for the Boss ES-5. If Kemper do it right, I'd bite.

Re: What a lot of us have been wanting from Kemper..

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:27 am
by mule
I'm curious to know how Kemper users here find the desktop/iOS software?

At ~$1000NZD I could live without a screen, but it lives or dies on how annoying the software is to work with.

Re: What a lot of us have been wanting from Kemper..

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:30 am
by sizzlingbadger
When I'm on stage in front of 50,000 people the last thing I want too do is get my phone out to tweak my pedal board.

Re: What a lot of us have been wanting from Kemper..

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:31 am
by codedog
mule wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:27 am I'm curious to know how Kemper users here find the desktop/iOS software?

At ~$1000NZD I could live without a screen, but it lives or dies on how annoying the software is to work with.
Software is just fine, fairly easy to use and straightforward. Like the unit itself, the desktop Rig Manager is not "pretty". My only slight complaint is you can't view the rig content in the app without a Profiler connected. I seem to recall this was possible with Fractal, but my memory may be wrong there.

Re: What a lot of us have been wanting from Kemper..

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:32 am
by robthemac
sizzlingbadger wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:30 am When I'm on stage in front of 50,000 people the last thing I want too do is get my phone out to tweak my pedal board.
A daily occurrence for all on this forum.

Re: What a lot of us have been wanting from Kemper..

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:36 am
by jeremyb
I once played to the bar staff and doorman and having to whip my phone out then would have been annoying!

Re: What a lot of us have been wanting from Kemper..

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:57 am
by The Scarecrow
Seems novel, but at that price point, I'd want a screen. I paid about a K for my AX8 and the now-antiquated Nokia-esque green screen is better than having to add yet another app to my phone.

Re: What a lot of us have been wanting from Kemper..

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:17 am
by TmcB
jeremyb wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:36 am I once played to the bar staff and doorman and having to whip my phone out then would have been annoying!
True story - once was in the last band at an all ages gig. Band before us cleared the room. Sound guy ducked out as we started so literally played to no one.


Turns out he was buying us some beer and invited us to open for his locally big band

Re: What a lot of us have been wanting from Kemper..

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:23 am
by griff
In my experience, making adjustments on a phone is far quicker than pushing little buttons and turning knobs on a pedal. Then finding out you've done something wrong and trying to retrace your steps. But for basic B, M, T adjustments, yeah knobs are better. But everyone is different. This unit will appeal to a lot of folks and not so much to others.

Re: What a lot of us have been wanting from Kemper..

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:27 am
by The Scarecrow
jeremyb wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:36 am I once played to the bar staff and doorman

K Rd Ballroom, 2004. 6 band lineup which some genius thought would be wise to start playing at 10pm. Forever etched in memory due to rage.

We drew short straw and played just before 2am to the two bar staff and cleaner. I nearly walked out at around 1am due to frustration as the band with the biggest following played just before us and cleared everything out, but our singer insisted on staying despite the fact that every single one of the other bands and even the organisers left.

I took over running gigs after this and to this day, refuse to play any bill with more than 3 bands that doesn't kick off at a reasonable time :lol:

Re: What a lot of us have been wanting from Kemper..

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:30 am
by Kiwiaxe
I’ll let you know how I find it once mine arrives :)

I have the advantage of being very used to the Kemper infrastructure, having used it at home and live for 11 years. I don’t adjust anything on my kemper when playing live (even volume is controlled via the mixer) although running one of these into two Kabinets might mean I use the master volume. Heck, I’ve done gigs where the kemper head has been back by the mixing desk and all I’ve had in front of me was an expression pedal set to morph - i just used the same patch all night.

Re: What a lot of us have been wanting from Kemper..

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:48 am
by griff
Kiwiaxe wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:30 am I’ll let you know how I find it once mine arrives :)

I have the advantage of being very used to the Kemper infrastructure, having used it at home and live for 11 years. I don’t adjust anything on my kemper when playing live (even volume is controlled via the mixer) although running one of these into two Kabinets might mean I use the master volume. Heck, I’ve done gigs where the kemper head has been back by the mixing desk and all I’ve had in front of me was an expression pedal set to morph - i just used the same patch all night.
Same here, hence a slightly biased opinion. Last gig I did I dialled everything in through PA at home beforehand and didnt have to touch my toaster at all.

Re: What a lot of us have been wanting from Kemper..

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:06 am
by Zaulkin
I could be tempted by something like this I reckon. When I'm at home in front of my PC, I'm quite happy to muck around with endless possibilities. For live and for rehearsals though I literally just want to plug and play. The rare time I tweaked patches was more when a band mate said "hey... have you got 'x' sound in there?" The phone app sounds like it would be much better than a tiny screen too - god I hate screens and bad UI. If I had a significant issue during a gig I would rather kick on a backup than spend time trying to work it out.

I'd be keen to try one of these at least.

Re: What a lot of us have been wanting from Kemper..

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:55 am
by Reg18

Re: What a lot of us have been wanting from Kemper..

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:58 am
by robthemac
Reg18 wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:55 am And it’s started!
https://www.trademe.co.nz/music-instrum ... 792356.htm
Jeeeeeesus that's cheap