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Re: Anyone Rocking Vintage Blackface?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:31 pm
by StrummersOfThunder
robthemac wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:17 pm
murky wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:19 pm
Grant B, Conway - you boys wind them up, or keep them clean?
Robbie - Bandmaster would stay pretty clean right? Maybe a little grit at the top of the dial?
Twins scare me.
Bandmaster is not mine and not stock. I spent a month with it. I got no break-up. None. Significantly louder and cleaned than my Deluxe Reverb. Also not as scooped as I expected.
Maybe some of the tube rectified large bottle 40w-ish offerings would suit you ?
Re: Anyone Rocking Vintage Blackface?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:51 pm
by robthemac
StrummersOfThunder wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:31 pm
robthemac wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:17 pm
murky wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:19 pm
Grant B, Conway - you boys wind them up, or keep them clean?
Robbie - Bandmaster would stay pretty clean right? Maybe a little grit at the top of the dial?
Twins scare me.
Bandmaster is not mine and not stock. I spent a month with it. I got no break-up. None. Significantly louder and cleaned than my Deluxe Reverb. Also not as scooped as I expected.
Maybe some of the tube rectified large bottle 40w-ish offerings would suit you ?
Presume you're not talking to the guy heavily attenuating two low-power tube amps.
Re: Anyone Rocking Vintage Blackface?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:18 pm
by bender
I had a Bandmaster for a while (transitional model- BF circuit with SF panel). It was surprisingly brash in the midrange- especially upper mids.
Re: Anyone Rocking Vintage Blackface?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:57 pm
by TmcB
I like my PRRI
Re: Anyone Rocking Vintage Blackface?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:05 pm
by GrantB
murky wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:19 pm
Grant B, Conway - you boys wind them up, or keep them clean?
Robbie - Bandmaster would stay pretty clean right? Maybe a little grit at the top of the dial?
Twins scare me.
Usually played at early break up, but yeah, sounds great cranked. I have an attenuator because it is still a loud 12 watts
Re: Anyone Rocking Vintage Blackface?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:01 pm
by robthemac
I haven't found my Mike-C Deluxe Reverb to do its best work when fully cranked. It sounds great at 5-7 on the volume dial, especially when cutting bass and/or adding Klone/TS in front. But diming the volume just doesn't sizzle my bacon. That's in distinct contrast to the Plexi and Tweed, both of which love getting the shit kicked out of them.
Re: Anyone Rocking Vintage Blackface?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:45 pm
by blackstratblues
Had a ‘67 Pro Reverb with G12-65s that I gigged for a few years. A truly great amp, but the need for regular maintenance and a step down transformer prompted me to sell it and get a Suhr Bella 44. Equally happy with the sounds, and it’s built like a tank.
Re: Anyone Rocking Vintage Blackface?
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:24 am
by Litterick
I have a Princeton Reverb II, in Champagne Beigeface and oak panels.
Re: Anyone Rocking Vintage Blackface?
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:50 am
by StrummersOfThunder
robthemac wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:01 pm
I haven't found my Mike-C Deluxe Reverb to do its best work when fully cranked. It sounds great at 5-7 on the volume dial, especially when cutting bass and/or adding Klone/TS in front. But diming the volume just doesn't sizzle my bacon. That's in distinct contrast to the Plexi and Tweed, both of which love getting the shit kicked out of them.
i agree. I dont like the sound of cranked blackface and I dont really think they were designed to do that. Edge of break up yes. Cranked usally just gets to mush or fizz town
Re: Anyone Rocking Vintage Blackface?
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 8:32 am
by murky
StrummersOfThunder wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:50 am
robthemac wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:01 pm
I haven't found my Mike-C Deluxe Reverb to do its best work when fully cranked. It sounds great at 5-7 on the volume dial, especially when cutting bass and/or adding Klone/TS in front. But diming the volume just doesn't sizzle my bacon. That's in distinct contrast to the Plexi and Tweed, both of which love getting the shit kicked out of them.
i agree. I dont like the sound of cranked blackface and I dont really think they were designed to do that. Edge of break up yes. Cranked usally just gets to mush or fizz town
This is why I'm curious about well setup/tuned vintage!
The RI BF's I've tried/owned sounded terrible when cranked, and passable but not great in the noon-2 o'clock sweet spot. Went around the block a few times and got to the point where I concluded the BF wasn't for me.....
Now..... find myself d*cking around with some modelled (yeah, I know...) BF (Fractal -> PS100 -> EVM12L's) which sound great both dimed and in the sweet spot, and superb dimed but rolled back on the guitar vol. This got me wondering.....
Re: Anyone Rocking Vintage Blackface?
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 8:55 am
by robthemac
murky wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 8:32 am
StrummersOfThunder wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:50 am
robthemac wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:01 pm
I haven't found my Mike-C Deluxe Reverb to do its best work when fully cranked. It sounds great at 5-7 on the volume dial, especially when cutting bass and/or adding Klone/TS in front. But diming the volume just doesn't sizzle my bacon. That's in distinct contrast to the Plexi and Tweed, both of which love getting the shit kicked out of them.
i agree. I dont like the sound of cranked blackface and I dont really think they were designed to do that. Edge of break up yes. Cranked usally just gets to mush or fizz town
This is why I'm curious about well setup/tuned vintage!
The RI BF's I've tried/owned sounded terrible when cranked, and passable but not great in the noon-2 o'clock sweet spot. Went around the block a few times and got to the point where I concluded the BF wasn't for me.....
Now..... find myself d*cking around with some modelled (yeah, I know...) BF (Fractal -> PS100 -> EVM12L's) which sound great both dimed and in the sweet spot, and superb dimed but rolled back on the guitar vol. This got me wondering.....
I think it was Pete Thorn who suggested running the bass on 0 and treble somewhere above midday. This is what I do when I have the volume past midday. Breakup is a lot more pleasant this way. But my 2x10 speakers don't love the amp breaking up, so I often end up going into the 2x12 Bandmaster if I'm thrashing the Deluxe Reverb.
Re: Anyone Rocking Vintage Blackface?
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:06 am
by AiRdAd
Some of the old jansen amps are blackface territory. Could be a cheap option?
Re: Anyone Rocking Vintage Blackface?
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:06 am
by Conway
murky wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:19 pm
Grant B, Conway - you boys wind them up, or keep them clean?
Clean. It was too loud at home past about 4. Lovely clean though.
Re: Anyone Rocking Vintage Blackface?
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:12 am
by robthemac
AiRdAd wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:06 am
Some of the old jansen amps are blackface territory. Could be a cheap option?
This.
Re: Anyone Rocking Vintage Blackface?
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:19 am
by NZTone.e
there’s a couple Jansens on fb down Wellington way…