solid state or valve

Post by Bg » Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:30 am

yes been there and did it in reverse....

Danger Mouse · Post by **Danger Mouse** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:33 am

Just for the record, prior to his untimely death, Dimabag was working with Krank amplifiers on a new signature series amp, which was released after his death and is known as the Krankenstein... it's a valve amp.

Rog · Post by **Rog** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:50 am

I really don't see the merit in pointing to another muso and saying - he/she uses SS or valve. So what? His/her taste is different to mine/yours/everyone else's.

Post by **GrantB** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:58 am

humphreybear wrote:hi I was wondering about the difference between solid state and valve amps what are the pros and cons of both?

This is a trick question, I'd (cynically) say designed to divide and conquer us!

Danger Mouse · Post by **Danger Mouse** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:16 am

Rog wrote:I really don't see the merit in pointing to another muso and saying - he/she uses SS or valve. So what? His/her taste is different to mine/yours/everyone else's.

There is no merit, in Dimebag's case he used SS amps because no valve amp on the market that could offer the distortion he wanted. But Krank managed to get the same sound with a valve amp, so he went to valves. The Krankenstein actually sounds pretty much exactly like his old Randall, so if you can get a SS amp and a valve amp to sound the same, then where is the benefit in having either technology over the other?

Rog · Post by **Rog** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:34 am

so if you can get a SS amp and a valve amp to sound the same, then where is the benefit in having either technology over the other?

I agree. But tone is only a part of the equation for me. Portability, cost and reliability all enter into the decision. In that event, SS wins hands down, IME.

angry_young_poet · Post by **angry_young_poet** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:50 am

in that case.. get a POD

Rog · Post by **Rog** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:59 am

Why?

I'm also a believer in the idea that if you desperately want your sound to be a Plexi, or a Twin, or whatever - get one.

Danger Mouse · Post by **Danger Mouse** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:09 am

Rog wrote:
so if you can get a SS amp and a valve amp to sound the same, then where is the benefit in having either technology over the other?
I agree. But tone is only a part of the equation for me. Portability, cost and reliability all enter into the decision. In that event, SS wins hands down, IME.

Perhaps, but a well-designed and well spec'd valve amp will be reliable, only need the tubes replacing every couple of years and I have carted around some pretty stupidly heavy SS combo amps. Cost I do agree with though, a valve will always cost more than a transistor (even if you can spend a lot of money on transistors if you want to).

Rog · Post by **Rog** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:13 am

only need the tubes replacing every couple of years

That's the part that gets me. $300 every couple of years for new tubes...

dylan · Post by **dylan** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:23 am

a clean tube amp sounds different to a clean ss amp.

in fact the more distortion you add, the more amps sound the same.

angry_young_poet · Post by **angry_young_poet** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:23 am

people spend more than that to get their car serviced every 6 months!

angry_young_poet · Post by **angry_young_poet** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:25 am

Rog wrote:Why?

I'm also a believer in the idea that if you desperately want your sound to be a Plexi, or a Twin, or whatever - get one.

in restecp to the statement that:

so if you can get a SS amp and a valve amp to sound the same, then where is the benefit in having either technology over the other?

just add modellers to the equation then

Rog · Post by **Rog** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:29 am

people spend more than that to get their car serviced every 6 months!

Fools!

I do it every 15,000km (I average 11,000 a year), but I also use my car every day. I use my amp maybe 5 days a month.

Rog · Post by **Rog** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:30 am

just add modellers to the equation then

I'm sure they have their place, just not at my place.

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