The new breed of Mesa - review
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The new breed of Mesa - review
I was lucky enough to have NZRS_Matt walk me through a couple of sweet, sweet amps this afternoon (as well as effortlessly kill me with his playing) and wanted to tell the NZG massive about them. To paraphrase Ryan CAB, here are some words, on the internet.
Electradyne
Matt's own amp was brought in and plugged into his stiletto 4x12 (essentially a recto 2x12 in Marshall dimensions i.e. minus the somewhat reediculous low end of an OS recto 4x12 cab). First impressions were distinctly un-Mesa - the amp has a rich, raw tone (as opposed to sterile) which I loved. The plexi tone was most of the way there (not QUITE there but Matt reckons with EL34s it is. The amp comes stock with 6L6s so that would make sense). The clean was also very tasty. Like a real plexi, it's a looser sound in the bottom end than I like for my dirty stuff (a metal amp, this is not) but that is a trade off for the "size" of the sound - it sounds massive. I'd love one of these in the studio but for a single amp for live, this was not quite what I was after. If you never have the need to go "chug chug chug" on your guitar, but love great cleans and big Marshallesque power chords, this is very much worth your attention. Also, Mesa haters (or people turned off by too many knobs and switches) should look at this - it's simple to operate and yet does a lot.
Mark V
I confess that I've been listening constantly to Mark V clips for a few weeks and was 50% sure this was going to be a cool amp. How cool it actually was surprised me! Briefly, the cleans are great and there's several flavours - whatever they're called, it's basically clean clean, warm breaky clean and "tweed" (which IS very Fender sounding although FEELS a little harder edged than actual tweed I'd say. I was happy to tick off "decent clean" and move on to the good side - channels 2 and 3.
Channel 2 is your ACDC and more channel, with a Mark 1 setting (amazing lead tone - fat and thick) and a Mark IIc+ (can't really remember this but it was all good). I could probably have lived with just these two channels and been pretty happy. I felt that I would use this channel for my band's more "big open chord" style songs where we use an AC30 in the studio (like Everywhere, for example). It's a lovely big, harmonically rich tone.
Channel 3 is Mark IV and "Extreme". I don't know if we really delved into extreme but the Mark IV was like coming home. On its factory preset EQ (which I'll explain in a minute) it was just exactly what I like in a dirty tone - cutting, chunky mids, tight low end which if you want could get insanely huge but on the preset was ample without being overbearing, and sweet tops without being shrill. This is as close to the tone I am hearing in my head (I hate the expression, but it's really true here) as I've come when trying amps. It just rocked fucking hard. It was at this point I decided I must have one of these Mark Vs, and began thinking about what colour my rig should be...I'm thinking white with a tan grille, with matching 2x12s....
There is several options with EQ across the amp, which are switchable on each channel. You can opt to use the trademark "graphic EQ" that we know and love from the Mark series, or the "preset" which has been chosen by Mesa as a very good setting for that particular channel (clean, dirty and lead/metal). The presets are on the money and really do deliver a great tone instantly. You can tweak the presets with the channel EQ to taste. Really nice innovation from Mesa.
The only retarded thing is the footpedal is locked within the amp itself, so you have to unscrew the back panel to get it. This gets a huge WTF! Obviously you're only ever going to bother doing this once. Perhaps they do it for shipping, I don't know. It's not even a flaw in the amp, just a really weird thing to do.
Bottom line, I am already in the process of getting myself a Mark V of my very own, and I'll be selling all my other amps apart from my Vox. I won't need them and they won't get played when I have this.
I'd say if you're into anything (gain wise) from Foo Fighters to Metallica, you're probably going to dig the Mark V, though if your tastes run more to the classics, the Electradyne may be what you're looking for. These two amps are both destined to be classics for Mesa.
Electradyne
Matt's own amp was brought in and plugged into his stiletto 4x12 (essentially a recto 2x12 in Marshall dimensions i.e. minus the somewhat reediculous low end of an OS recto 4x12 cab). First impressions were distinctly un-Mesa - the amp has a rich, raw tone (as opposed to sterile) which I loved. The plexi tone was most of the way there (not QUITE there but Matt reckons with EL34s it is. The amp comes stock with 6L6s so that would make sense). The clean was also very tasty. Like a real plexi, it's a looser sound in the bottom end than I like for my dirty stuff (a metal amp, this is not) but that is a trade off for the "size" of the sound - it sounds massive. I'd love one of these in the studio but for a single amp for live, this was not quite what I was after. If you never have the need to go "chug chug chug" on your guitar, but love great cleans and big Marshallesque power chords, this is very much worth your attention. Also, Mesa haters (or people turned off by too many knobs and switches) should look at this - it's simple to operate and yet does a lot.
Mark V
I confess that I've been listening constantly to Mark V clips for a few weeks and was 50% sure this was going to be a cool amp. How cool it actually was surprised me! Briefly, the cleans are great and there's several flavours - whatever they're called, it's basically clean clean, warm breaky clean and "tweed" (which IS very Fender sounding although FEELS a little harder edged than actual tweed I'd say. I was happy to tick off "decent clean" and move on to the good side - channels 2 and 3.
Channel 2 is your ACDC and more channel, with a Mark 1 setting (amazing lead tone - fat and thick) and a Mark IIc+ (can't really remember this but it was all good). I could probably have lived with just these two channels and been pretty happy. I felt that I would use this channel for my band's more "big open chord" style songs where we use an AC30 in the studio (like Everywhere, for example). It's a lovely big, harmonically rich tone.
Channel 3 is Mark IV and "Extreme". I don't know if we really delved into extreme but the Mark IV was like coming home. On its factory preset EQ (which I'll explain in a minute) it was just exactly what I like in a dirty tone - cutting, chunky mids, tight low end which if you want could get insanely huge but on the preset was ample without being overbearing, and sweet tops without being shrill. This is as close to the tone I am hearing in my head (I hate the expression, but it's really true here) as I've come when trying amps. It just rocked fucking hard. It was at this point I decided I must have one of these Mark Vs, and began thinking about what colour my rig should be...I'm thinking white with a tan grille, with matching 2x12s....
There is several options with EQ across the amp, which are switchable on each channel. You can opt to use the trademark "graphic EQ" that we know and love from the Mark series, or the "preset" which has been chosen by Mesa as a very good setting for that particular channel (clean, dirty and lead/metal). The presets are on the money and really do deliver a great tone instantly. You can tweak the presets with the channel EQ to taste. Really nice innovation from Mesa.
The only retarded thing is the footpedal is locked within the amp itself, so you have to unscrew the back panel to get it. This gets a huge WTF! Obviously you're only ever going to bother doing this once. Perhaps they do it for shipping, I don't know. It's not even a flaw in the amp, just a really weird thing to do.
Bottom line, I am already in the process of getting myself a Mark V of my very own, and I'll be selling all my other amps apart from my Vox. I won't need them and they won't get played when I have this.
I'd say if you're into anything (gain wise) from Foo Fighters to Metallica, you're probably going to dig the Mark V, though if your tastes run more to the classics, the Electradyne may be what you're looking for. These two amps are both destined to be classics for Mesa.
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Re: The new breed of Mesa - review
There was a guy selling one on TM...
But seriously, cool review Sam. Must be cool if it's turned you away from that Custom Audio that was being discussed the other week.
But seriously, cool review Sam. Must be cool if it's turned you away from that Custom Audio that was being discussed the other week.
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Re: The new breed of Mesa - review
Yeah man, you're right, and it did.hamo wrote:There was a guy selling one on TM...
But seriously, cool review Sam. Must be cool if it's turned you away from that Custom Audio that was being discussed the other week.
I'm going to go the head, as I have a 1x12 and 2x12 cab already.
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Everyone loves the head
but seriously, nice review Sam, sounds like a mint amp!
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Cool review(s)
My first impression upon the playing the Mark V (combo, I really need to try the head version) was that it was a jack of all trades and did a lot of really sick, awesome tones. But to me it lacks the character of the earlier mark series amps (I, II & III)
Having spent the past 2 days tracking my friends band (melo-death metal) using nothing but my Mark III -> Carvin legacy 2x12" cab (we didn't even change the settings once, leads and rhythms. Havn't done cleans yet) I'm now completely convinced that the mark 5 is absolute overkill. If I had one I'd definitely use it though
The mark 5 seems like the easiest amp of the mark series to dial in but the sheer amount of switches and subtle tone variations were rather overkill I thought. It sounded good though.
Really interested in the Electra-dyne, hard a lot of talk about that one. Played a Laney GH100L head for the first time today (through a line 6 spider 4x12"
) sounded a lot better than I was expecting! Very cool.
My first impression upon the playing the Mark V (combo, I really need to try the head version) was that it was a jack of all trades and did a lot of really sick, awesome tones. But to me it lacks the character of the earlier mark series amps (I, II & III)
Having spent the past 2 days tracking my friends band (melo-death metal) using nothing but my Mark III -> Carvin legacy 2x12" cab (we didn't even change the settings once, leads and rhythms. Havn't done cleans yet) I'm now completely convinced that the mark 5 is absolute overkill. If I had one I'd definitely use it though
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Really interested in the Electra-dyne, hard a lot of talk about that one. Played a Laney GH100L head for the first time today (through a line 6 spider 4x12"
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Re: The new breed of Mesa - review
Can't really comment since I've not played the originals, but it definitely did not lack for vibe, IMHO. I note that the only criticisms I've seen on the Mark V seem to be essentially that it's not the same as the earlier ones, and that the various Mark modes don't sound perfectly the same as the originals. For me, that's not a problem since I haven't fallen in love with the old ones so don't miss them, though for someone else it might be I guess.robnobcorncob wrote:Cool review(s)
My first impression upon the playing the Mark V (combo, I really need to try the head version) was that it was a jack of all trades and did a lot of really sick, awesome tones. But to me it lacks the character of the earlier mark series amps (I, II & III)
Having spent the past 2 days tracking my friends band (melo-death metal) using nothing but my Mark III -> Carvin legacy 2x12" cab (we didn't even change the settings once, leads and rhythms. Havn't done cleans yet) I'm now completely convinced that the mark 5 is absolute overkill. If I had one I'd definitely use it thoughThe mark 5 seems like the easiest amp of the mark series to dial in but the sheer amount of switches and subtle tone variations were rather overkill I thought. It sounded good though.
Really interested in the Electra-dyne, hard a lot of talk about that one. Played a Laney GH100L head for the first time today (through a line 6 spider 4x12") sounded a lot better than I was expecting! Very cool.
Re: The new breed of Mesa - review
Glad you like the Mark V..
Mine SHOULD arrive tomorrow.
When it does..
BOOM!!!!!!!!!!
Straight to band practice.
Mine SHOULD arrive tomorrow.
When it does..
BOOM!!!!!!!!!!
Straight to band practice.
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Re: The new breed of Mesa - review
bastard bastard bastard bastard GAS now in overdrive.
can you get the marshall about to explode mixed with soldano sound (think cross between VH sound from balance and later george lynch)?
can you get the marshall about to explode mixed with soldano sound (think cross between VH sound from balance and later george lynch)?
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bloody oath, purveying fine amplification in such a manner as to induce a sale, and the same goes for Ryan and i think Ash is a total shit for making a single pick up SG that made me want an Ash superstrat (ok that last one is a reach but you get the theme)TMG 03 wrote:That RS Matt is such a crack dealer.
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My knowledge of George Lynch's latter works is limited to say the least. I'd say the VH sound (as I understand it, which is to say minimally) is there. There's no "fat" in the sound - it's all meat. That's what I was looking for and this thing has it in spades.crunchy as kellogs wrote:bastard bastard bastard bastard GAS now in overdrive.
can you get the marshall about to explode mixed with soldano sound (think cross between VH sound from balance and later george lynch)?
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i wish that you had not said that, now i will have to go and try one and the same with the shiva and want them both.
i have explained to wife that this is a fairly cheap passion to have in life, i mean how big a bastard would it be if i wanted a ferrari...................somehow she just doesnt see the connection![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
i have explained to wife that this is a fairly cheap passion to have in life, i mean how big a bastard would it be if i wanted a ferrari...................somehow she just doesnt see the connection
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Aim lower. Use a speedboat in comparison.crunchy as kellogs wrote:i wish that you had not said that, now i will have to go and try one and the same with the shiva and want them both.
i have explained to wife that this is a fairly cheap passion to have in life, i mean how big a bastard would it be if i wanted a ferrari...................somehow she just doesnt see the connection
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