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Nasty Amp Hum

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I just put a 12ax7 back in the Jansens's V1. Switching on, I'm met with what sounds like a loud earth hum. It's not affected by preamp knobs.
Changed out the valve and it's still there.

The amp was last turned on Tuesday and worked fine.

Advice welcome please!
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Tried a different guitar and lead? or is this with no guitar plugged in?
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jeremyb wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:45 pm Tried a different guitar and lead? or is this with no guitar plugged in?
Unplugged. Power up and off it goes.
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Slowy wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:46 pm
jeremyb wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:45 pm Tried a different guitar and lead? or is this with no guitar plugged in?
Unplugged. Power up and off it goes.
Any change with anything plugged in?
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jeremyb wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:43 pm
Slowy wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:46 pm
jeremyb wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:45 pm Tried a different guitar and lead? or is this with no guitar plugged in?
Unplugged. Power up and off it goes.
Any change with anything plugged in?
Nope.
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Have you replaced the filter caps on the amp ever? They have a lifespan of 15-20 years with regular use, less than that if the power isn't cycled frequently. When those begin to die hum and flub start to creep in.

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NippleWrestler wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:08 pm Have you replaced the filter caps on the amp ever? They have a lifespan of 15-20 years with regular use, less than that if the power isn't cycled frequently. When those begin to die hum and flub start to creep in.
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Slowy wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:10 pm
NippleWrestler wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:08 pm Have you replaced the filter caps on the amp ever? They have a lifespan of 15-20 years with regular use, less than that if the power isn't cycled frequently. When those begin to die hum and flub start to creep in.
I can sense a journey to Clarry's house in my near future.....
If they haven't been changed out it's worth doing anyway as preventative maintenance, especially if they're over 15 yrs old. It's a simple job of changing them yourself too, no need for a tech if you can competently handle a soldering iron and discharge caps (takes about 30 seconds).

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Try a different set of power tubes, maybe one has gone bad.
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NippleWrestler wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:34 pm
Slowy wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:10 pm
NippleWrestler wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:08 pm Have you replaced the filter caps on the amp ever? They have a lifespan of 15-20 years with regular use, less than that if the power isn't cycled frequently. When those begin to die hum and flub start to creep in.
I can sense a journey to Clarry's house in my near future.....
If they haven't been changed out it's worth doing anyway as preventative maintenance, especially if they're over 15 yrs old. It's a simple job of changing them yourself too, no need for a tech if you can competently handle a soldering iron and discharge caps (takes about 30 seconds).
I can visualise that and you're right, it's well within my skillset. But Clarry knows this amp, he's maintained it for me and it's time he had another wander through it. :D
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The only change was in swapping V1 this morning and that's when the hum started. I never got to hear the replacement.
I took out a 12au7 and replaced it with a 12ax7.

The hum is there regardless and it gets to a volume that makes me very concerned for the speaker so mercifully, it's a brief experience.
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Reflow the solder joints on the tube socket? Check the socket is tight? Might have disturbed something when installing the tube?

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murky wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:29 am Reflow the solder joints on the tube socket? Check the socket is tight? Might have disturbed something when installing the tube?
So often a change or a fault is due to the last thing that occurred before the change or fault occurred. Even if it seems unrelated.
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murky wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:29 am Reflow the solder joints on the tube socket? Check the socket is tight? Might have disturbed something when installing the tube?
wouldn't hurt to use a bit of contact cleaner in the valve socket too
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Slowy wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:03 pm The only change was in swapping V1 this morning and that's when the hum started. I never got to hear the replacement.
I took out a 12au7 and replaced it with a 12ax7.

The hum is there regardless and it gets to a volume that makes me very concerned for the speaker so mercifully, it's a brief experience.
So what happens when you put the old tube back in? Could well be a crappy tube.

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