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Extremely meh. Horrible asthmatic-sounding thing.

Starfire wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:28 am Extremely meh. Horrible asthmatic-sounding thing.

I have to agree

Starfire wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:28 am Extremely meh. Horrible asthmatic-sounding thing.

Sounds like they nailed the tone of the vintage 60’s ones they’re trying to imitate. They were often really boxy sounding amps - mostly due to the speakers but also some real head-scratchers in the circuit designs.

I quite like things that aren't perfect, so I'm going to go against the grain, and say "yeap, I totally would".

(after they have been heavily discounted...)

“…pieces of unmitigated crap…”

Ouchies

GrantB wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 12:11 pm “…pieces of unmitigated crap…”

Ouchies

I think we would all agree that PCB mounted valve sockets are one of the worst possible design flaws, I have them in my AC10 and it scares the shit out of when I've changed toobs before

jeremyb wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:47 am

It's Brad though. I have a hard time taking him seriously myself. He's like the Glenn Fricker of the amp world.

NippleWrestler wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 12:30 pm

jeremyb wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:47 am

It's Brad though. I have a hard time taking him seriously myself. He's like the Glenn Fricker of the amp world.

‘nuff said

That video is total bs. If pcbs and pcb-mounted valve sockets are such a problem, why has mesa boogie (and Fender) been using this design in their amps for decades? And people pay good money for them!

I don’t think board-mounted sockets are a good idea for boutique amps, but there’s nothing wrong with them in mass-produced stuff

RectifiedAmps wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:08 pm That video is total bs. If pcbs and pcb-mounted valve sockets are such a problem, why has mesa boogie (and Fender) been using this design in their amps for decades? And people pay good money for them!

Economies of scale

He makes some reasonable observations but he also bullshits quite a bit for the attention. PCB mounted pre-amp sockets are ok if they are high quality and mounted on a decently thick fibreglass board. That build looks fairly typical of Mesa and will probably hold up pretty well. Lot of $$$ though for what they are.