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mttn3 wrote:^ I made the decision based on the forum advice so you're congratulating the members who said it was a good idea really, but thanks :D I hope it helps me to keep enjoying learning the guitar.
Well, you know what they say about leading a horse to water...

Hang around here, I can't guarantee you'll keep practicing but you'll sure buy enough gear to try to make up for it :mrgreen:
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TmcB wrote: Hang around here, I can't guarantee you'll keep practicing but you'll sure buy enough gear to try to make up for it :mrgreen:
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slowfingers wrote:
TmcB wrote: Hang around here, I can't guarantee you'll keep practicing but you'll sure buy enough gear to try to make up for it :mrgreen:
This deserves to be someone's signature. Unfortunately, it can't be me; changing mine would be criminally irresponsible.
Or your own quote
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mttn3 wrote:Wow there's heaps here for me to look into now eh. I might've gone for the multi-effects with expression pedal if I'd seen it first, but I'm buying Harvey's flyrig instead. Using a real pedal at the same time as trying to strum and hold frets would probably be too much for me at the moment anyway!

I had seen a little pocket unit at the shop when i bought my guitar. It was a cute idea, just a unit sitting on the output jack of the guitar and modelling amp sounds out to headphones, and it was the cheap option, but this Flyrig seems like it'll be pretty future proof and, if worst comes to worst, will have some resale value anyway. If I ever did outgrow something like that I'll have no regrets about it, I'm sure.

My budget is more of a balance against the looks i get from the gf when i waste money on current whims, but as long as i enjoy what i get and it keeps me motivated then it's ok by me. Having said that, the "couple of hundred" range is about the maximum outlay I had in my mind, so the one Flyrig unit has to last me for a while.

I am a bit too self conscious to just go around to someone's house, or a guitar shop for that matter, to try out any equipment or have a jam. That kind of thing can wait until i can at least reliably strike a few chords in a row without buzzy frets and/or wrong strings. :)
Good choice actually, it's a combination of all the suggestions when I think about it; modeller, delay, dirt, multifx without having the stigma or uselessness/over-complication of an actual multifx unit, and of course resale. Nice!
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You made a great choice. It will take a while to outgrown that, Well done!

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Haha yah it's all about the practice now, i can't blame the gear for anything. It's funny to get recommendations of buying more guitars already though ;)

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Yep I found that funny too. "I have an electric and a keyboard amp and want to know what effects to add to get the rock/punk 90s sound". Get an acoustic???
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:grump: It's a bit late, i have inexplicably been feeling the GAS already. I am really just learning to play so i can justify buying an expensive collection of guitars. :lol: :oops: :cry:

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Delayman wrote:Yep I found that funny too. "I have an electric and a keyboard amp and want to know what effects to add to get the rock/punk 90s sound". Get an acoustic???

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Delayman wrote:Yep I found that funny too. "I have an electric and a keyboard amp and want to know what effects to add to get the rock/punk 90s sound". Get an acoustic???
His comment was useful for becoming a better player, but I'd rather play thru an amp than use an acoustic, picks out all your failings just as well I reckon and you don't have to deal with an awkward thing to play!
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Careful now, I personally find that owning gear makes me feel much better about lacking talent. Given recent purchases, I must be in a talent decline!

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Slightly off topic, but I'm a little surprised at the 'if you have a multitude of effects/sounds to dial in you'll be more likely to continue with guitar' attitude. Owning lots of gadgets/guitars/amps never made anyone better at guitar. The whole GAS infliction is nothing more than a consumerist mindset that should be relegated to people putting TVs and home theatre systems on credit cards. Guitar is a creative discipline. You can't buy that. That's the beauty of it. Creativity doesn't come with a $400 flanger. I'll grab my coat...

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mttn3 wrote:I am really just learning to play so i can justify buying an expensive collection of guitars.
Doesn't stop most of us.

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Cortez wrote:Creativity doesn't come with a $400 flanger.
Or dose it.....

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I think you've made a good call, get something of good quality that does the job and has a nice contained set of options, then focus on getting started learning to play. I would have recommended getting something like one of the entry level IDCore systems mainly because they are small, reasonably simple and have headphones and play along inputs, but what you've gone for is good.

The next thing I'd recommend is to get along to the gearfests we have here in CHCH reasonably regularly and make friends, we're a pretty nice bunch. This will allow you to ask the more knowledgable ones how to get the types of sounds you like and you'll probably get a few possible options to think about and try before the GAS inevitably kicks in and I think you'll make slightly better choices in the long run. You'll also be able to hear your guitar through other systems, or other guitars through your system and start to get a feel for what needs adjusting as you start to seek your perfect sound.

I personally got an all in one modelling pedal to try and start playing with pedals etc. into my valve amp and suddenly found myself wasting all my playing time exploring a bazillion amp and effects combos instead of dialing something in and practicing. So I've now ditched the modeller and got a reasonably nice multi-fx instead but everyones journey is different.

Anyway, good luck with the learning. I'd also recommend getting a decent teacher and taking some lessons to give your practice some direction, that helped me a lot.

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