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Re: NAD: Vox AC4

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jeremyb wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:10 am I must warn you all that it is a gateway drug to AC10 ownership.
I do worry it might be a gateway to an AC4 HW. I hope not.
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Re: NAD: Vox AC4

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Slowy wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:40 am
jeremyb wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:10 am I must warn you all that it is a gateway drug to AC10 ownership.
I do worry it might be a gateway to an AC4 HW. I hope not.
Been there, done that, wouldn’t recommend.

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Re: NAD: Vox AC4

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bender wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:45 am
Slowy wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:40 am
jeremyb wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:10 am I must warn you all that it is a gateway drug to AC10 ownership.
I do worry it might be a gateway to an AC4 HW. I hope not.
Been there, done that, wouldn’t recommend.
That's a relief; why?
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Re: NAD: Vox AC4

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Slowy wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:50 am
bender wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:45 am
Slowy wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:40 am

I do worry it might be a gateway to an AC4 HW. I hope not.
Been there, done that, wouldn’t recommend.
That's a relief; why?
It was a good amp, but not really any better- I was even a little disappointed by it. It has a little bit of additional functionality (hot/cool switch) but that’s not really that useful. I also think there’s something about the 10” speaker. The standard ac4 is just a really good amp :shrug:

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Re: NAD: Vox AC4

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bender wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:56 am
Slowy wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:50 am
bender wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:45 am

Been there, done that, wouldn’t recommend.
That's a relief; why?
It was a good amp, but not really any better- I was even a little disappointed by it. It has a little bit of additional functionality (hot/cool switch) but that’s not really that useful. I also think there’s something about the 10” speaker. The standard ac4 is just a really good amp :shrug:
Yep, the 10"AC4 just seems like a sweet spot to me. Plugging in a 12 makes it bigger, rounder and louder but it doesn't actually make it better.
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Re: NAD: Vox AC4

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Slowy wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:07 pm
bender wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:56 am
Slowy wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:50 am

That's a relief; why?
It was a good amp, but not really any better- I was even a little disappointed by it. It has a little bit of additional functionality (hot/cool switch) but that’s not really that useful. I also think there’s something about the 10” speaker. The standard ac4 is just a really good amp :shrug:
Yep, the 10"AC4 just seems like a sweet spot to me. Plugging in a 12 makes it bigger, rounder and louder but it doesn't actually make it better.
I used the HW at a band practice (my old band), and it kept up nicely. I don’t know that the standard one would have without an extension cab.

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Re: NAD: Vox AC4

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10” speakers do hit a sweet spot. Even 8” speakers in a smaller room work well.
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Re: NAD: Vox AC4

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Jensen alnico 10” are the sweetest fruit
So, is that low alcohol or no alcohol at all? mmmm, no alcohol, do you want to try it? Noooooooooo.

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Re: NAD: Vox AC4

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The wee red AC4 I had sounded huge into a 4x12 :lol:
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Bg wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:51 pm Jensen alnico 10” are the sweetest fruit
I made the mistake of looking at alnico speaker prices. Yikes!!

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Re: NAD: Vox AC4

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bender wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:56 am
Slowy wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:50 am
bender wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:45 am

Been there, done that, wouldn’t recommend.
That's a relief; why?
It was a good amp, but not really any better- I was even a little disappointed by it. It has a little bit of additional functionality (hot/cool switch) but that’s not really that useful. I also think there’s something about the 10” speaker. The standard ac4 is just a really good amp :shrug:
This. I had a HW4 and even with an English Blue, I ended up moving it on to Mr Oleg's Emporium of Curio's. I always struggled to find something pleasing with the top boost circuit, even with the tone cut. Sounded quite boxy too. For me, the magic is being able to blend the normal and top boost channels, like on the bigger AC's.

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Re: NAD: Vox AC4

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codedog wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:30 pm
Bg wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:51 pm Jensen alnico 10” are the sweetest fruit
I made the mistake of looking at alnico speaker prices. Yikes!!
Ceramic sound better for some circuits like champs, plus they're cheap as chips!
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Re: NAD: Vox AC4

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codedog wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:30 pm
Bg wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:51 pm Jensen alnico 10” are the sweetest fruit
I made the mistake of looking at alnico speaker prices. Yikes!!
My thought, 'I should put a 10" Blue in here..." proved very fleeting! :rofl:
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Re: NAD: Vox AC4

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Right. 3.30 Sunday arvo. The lounge is littered with guitars and pedalboard. Lurking on the coffee table is the Vox. I haven't really done anything else since I got up this morning. Slight movement of any knob, guitar or amp, can produce an interesting shading of the tone, or even another voice entirely.
This thing's interesting and so much fun. When I bypass the pedalboard, I stop noticing in about 15 seconds.

So I like it then. In fact, for the first time ever, I'm going to name an amp:
It's to be called Noodle; to remind me where the day will go if I switch it on.

And I discovered the perfect companion for the amp this afternoon, GlenDronach Traditionally Peated.
It's a Highland, finished in sherry and port casks with extra peating.
Shouldn't work but like the Vox, it's full of surprises.
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Re: NAD: Vox AC4

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Slowy wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:59 pm Right. 3.30 Sunday arvo. The lounge is littered with guitars and pedalboard. Lurking on the coffee table is the Vox. I haven't really done anything else since I got up this morning. Slight movement of any knob, guitar or amp, can produce an interesting shading of the tone, or even another voice entirely.
This thing's interesting and so much fun. When I bypass the pedalboard, I stop noticing in about 15 seconds.

So I like it then. In fact, for the first time ever, I'm going to name an amp:
It's to be called Noodle; to remind me where the day will go if I switch it on.

And I discovered the perfect companion for the amp this afternoon, GlenDronach Traditionally Peated.
It's a Highland, finished in sherry and port casks with extra peating.
Shouldn't work but like the Vox, it's full of surprises.
I just noticed something I could not recall from the first time I had this amp. It needs the volume at a certain level for the gain to overdrive. I think I said that he right way. It feels like the preamp does different things depending on the power amp. I hope that makes sense. Does yours do the same thing?

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