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Re: Learn me on P-90 Pickups

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 8:33 am
by jeremyb
IMOCD wrote:
HackSaw wrote:Good a thread as any to ask my question. I have the 2019 SG special, P90’s. Has the pcb wiring thing, which I’ve no doubt I wouldn’t even know if I didn’t open it up. However now I know, and I don’t like it! Give me old school (esp 50s wiring). I’ll go for a kit though given my skills with a soldering iron. How does this look?

https://jacksonelectronicluthier.com/sg ... 22uf-caps/
This would be my choice personally. Love how you can swap pups in and out without soldering. Great company to deal with too.

https://tonelounge.co.nz/traditional-vi ... -les-paul/
Kiwi made and incredible quality, have Mat's kits in my tele and Strat!!

Re: Learn me on P-90 Pickups

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 8:37 am
by AiRdAd
yeap - go tonelounge :-)

Re: Learn me on P-90 Pickups

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 8:59 am
by HackSaw
Are the hole routings the same distance apart on LP as on SG?

Re: Learn me on P-90 Pickups

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 9:15 am
by Candeevr4
HackSaw wrote:Are the hole routings the same distance apart on LP as on SG?
Apparently not. Also there are a number of variants hence why Matt hasnt produced an sg version..

Re: Learn me on P-90 Pickups

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 9:19 am
by JustMatt
HackSaw wrote:Are the hole routings the same distance apart on LP as on SG?
Unfortunately not.

Infact we found the hole spacing on SGs dosent have the same spacing as other SGs which is why we do not offer an option for them.

We hope do do something that will work with just about anything later this year.

PCBs kill the Toanz though so I wouldnt bother :lolno:

Re: Learn me on P-90 Pickups

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 9:32 am
by HackSaw
Thanks Matt! Yeah I don't subscribe to that necessarily, but do want the 50s wiring. Dunno if you can mess with what's in there to make it happen, but I wouldn't trust me to do it!

Re: Learn me on P-90 Pickups

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 9:49 am
by codedog
Tonelounge would be my choice too... Mathew is a very helpful forumite!

Re: Learn me on P-90 Pickups

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 10:21 am
by jeremyb
As we know SG stands for Satans Guitar so its no surprise it doesn't fit, like a hot poker in your botty.

Re: Learn me on P-90 Pickups

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 4:33 pm
by JustMatt
HackSaw wrote:Thanks Matt! Yeah I don't subscribe to that necessarily, but do want the 50s wiring. Dunno if you can mess with what's in there to make it happen, but I wouldn't trust me to do it!
It could actually be super easy depending on what you already have. It is essentially just moving the capacitors over by one lug on the volume controls.

Re: Learn me on P-90 Pickups

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 4:38 pm
by JustMatt
ToneLoungeMatt wrote:
HackSaw wrote:Thanks Matt! Yeah I don't subscribe to that necessarily, but do want the 50s wiring. Dunno if you can mess with what's in there to make it happen, but I wouldn't trust me to do it!
It could actually be super easy depending on what you already have. It is essentially just moving the capacitors over by one lug on the volume controls.

It is a bit more tricky with a PCB, but still possible.

Otherwise those kits look great.

I am not sure about the VIP centralab style pots. I would absoluteley use them for a vintage vibe, but they look to be specced for looks rather than performance.


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Re: Learn me on P-90 Pickups

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:07 am
by jeremyb

Re: Learn me on P-90 Pickups

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:23 am
by IMOCD
...in his hands, quite possibly. In mine, maybe not. Could watch him play for hours.

Re: Learn me on P-90 Pickups

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:38 am
by mr_sooty
I agree with what others have said in that P90's vary greatly. Some of them just sound like 'that Humbucker sound but with added hum'. But then the good ones are the greatest thing ever. I spent many years finding ways to thicken up the single coil sound a little - heavier strings and compressor pedals being the main tricks employed - but turns out the tone in my head was a P90 all along (literally, as one of my points of reference was Another Brick in The Wall). I love single coils and PAFs too, but a good P90 is just magical.

Re: Learn me on P-90 Pickups

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:05 am
by jeremyb
Now I have a guitar with actual P90s, rather than humbucker sized ones, I'm amazed at how grunty the Lollar overwound P90 is, requires a quite different EQ setting to what I would normally run on the brown channel on the katana but it chugs hard out, easily does Van Halen or heavier, crazy good!

Re: Learn me on P-90 Pickups

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:16 pm
by IMOCD
Love my P90 equipped LP, but I find I'm using my strat more often, because of band dynamics. P90 doesn't really cut through my bandmates HB'ers, but the strat pokes through quite nicely.